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- Thread starter crxdog
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why dont you like flys?
For me personally, I feel it more in my chest during flys than a regular bench press.
Seattleite
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I had the exact same discussion with someone a few weeks ago, so I'll just copy and paste most of what I said then:
What's the first thing you do when you get ready for a set of flyes? You head over for the lighter dumbbells.
Flyes are a huge step down because they are an isolation movement. They remove the triceps and shoulders out of the exercise, which means you will seriously drop the weight down. You're expending a ton of energy for a little bit of overload.
Isolation = reduced overload, and less overload = less muscle fiber stimulation, and of course less muscle fiber stimulation = less growth. It really is that simple.
A lot people do flyes because they think they are "sculpting" the muscle, but hopefully by now some people understand that you cannot change the genetic shape of your muscles. You can make them bigger, but that's it. So what do you think will make the chest bigger? Pressing 315 pounds or doing flyes with 70-pound dumbbells?
The reason I prefer Flys is it doesn't hurt my shoulders, I can feel my chest actually lifting the weight, whereas sometimes with a flat bench i'm using more of my arms than i'd like.
I don't do flys becuase I think i'm sculpting the muscle...I just feel it more that way.
On a side note, I almost always follow each set of flys immediatly up with bench press until failure. That really works the muscle.
i see the point the issue here and it has been discussed a million and one times. my opinion is...just b/c a lift is less "overload" doesn't mean it isn't worth doing. It just means it shouldn't be the basis of your routine.
think of it in another scenario. People take tylenol to get rid of pain, is it the most potent pain reliever? no, but it works to some extent. not exactly the same thing but hopefully i get across what i'm trying to say.
flyes have their place in bb, just not as a primary lift.
exactly...with so many different chest exercises why limit yourself to just one?
I like to switch it up and confuse my body. Its too stupid to know better
Seattleite
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Well 2 actually...dips and bench press. I don't do any others because they would be less effective.
Muscles respond to overload, not variation in exercise apparatus. Your body doesn't care if you're lifting plates or lifting bricks. The key factor in terms of making muscles larger in continuously increasing the weight.I like to switch it up and confuse my body. Its too stupid to know better
I understand training to failure and beyond is what will help build muscle (with the addition of a proper diet), but at the same time
You can train to failure and past with flys, incline, decline whatever...
Just because you can flat bench more weight then you can with say a db fly doesn't mean your chest is better off. Of course you can flat bench more weight...you've got a few more muscles helping out with the weight. Which is why with an isolation exercise you can't do nearly as much weight.
I guess we can agree to disagree, but looking at the bomb someone gave you...looks like others agree that db flys and other chest exercises do indeed serve a purpose.
annabolick
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I had the same problem. I bought a pair of jump stretch bands for some powerlifting workouts I was doing. I was able to use those attached to each side of the cable machine to do chest flys. this built up my inner chest like no other ... close grip dumbell work will help to...do these with flat, incline and decline
