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I'm using an Enan/Prop mix. It's got 250mgs of Enan and close to 150mgs of Prop per ml. The I took the shot on Monday and now it's Friday and the pain hasn't really subsided all that much. Any suggestions? Should I go see a doc or wait it out some more?
 
Where did you shoot? Prop can hurt sometimes, don't worry yet. If it still hurts at the 7 day mark, then think about worrying. I remember thinking I had an abcess or something when PL had that 500mg/ml stuff, but it was just the high alcohol.
 
Juice Authority said:
I'm using an Enan/Prop mix. It's got 250mgs of Enan and close to 150mgs of Prop per ml. The I took the shot on Monday and now it's Friday and the pain hasn't really subsided all that much. Any suggestions? Should I go see a doc or wait it out some more?

JA, I hope your doing well. Try moist heat and lightly rub the injection sight. 150mg/mL of Prop will hert. How is the Test Enth/Prop mixed in? Oil or PEG? If oil, the BA% may be to high on the final mix. If PEG, then there is your answer, PEG tends to leave the injection sight sore for a few days. I hope the stuff did not crystallize in your muscle, if that happens, then your screwed. Good luck and drop me a line bro.
 
How does the site look? Is it red or inflamed? Also, could you have moved the needle a bit during the shot or extraction? I've tore myself up a few times like that.
 
Miracle Man said:
JA, I hope your doing well. Try moist heat and lightly rub the injection sight. 150mg/mL of Prop will hert. How is the Test Enth/Prop mixed in? Oil or PEG? If oil, the BA% may be to high on the final mix. If PEG, then there is your answer, PEG tends to leave the injection sight sore for a few days. I hope the stuff did not crystallize in your muscle, if that happens, then your screwed. Good luck and drop me a line bro.

MM - thanks for your response. Great questions. i want to say oil and not PEG and I have an email into the lab to find out. How would you know if it crystallized in the muscle?
 
TheRide said:
How does the site look? Is it red or inflamed? Also, could you have moved the needle a bit during the shot or extraction? I've tore myself up a few times like that.

Injection site looks normal. The shot had 250mgs of Enan, 150mgs of Prop and 600mgs of EQ. The EQ 600 on its own is completely painless but that's 1000mgs of compounds in a 2mls shot. That could also be the reason. So much for the idea of taking 1 shot a week.
 
Juice Authority said:
I'm using an Enan/Prop mix. It's got 250mgs of Enan and close to 150mgs of Prop per ml. The I took the shot on Monday and now it's Friday and the pain hasn't really subsided all that much. Any suggestions? Should I go see a doc or wait it out some more?

JA, I had a couple buddies who started using prop and both had similar problems. One had to quit using the prop all together because the pain was pretty intense. The other is still using but the pain isn't unbearable for him. They both used prop from the same lab so I think sometimes it just depends on the persons tolerance to pain. For the guy still using, his pain does last about a week, peaking around day 3.

Have also heard other people post here that say some labs prop doesn't hurt at all. I think one was BL. If you want you can do a search and get some better answers.

Hang tough bro :evil:
 
Miracle Man said:
JA, I hope your doing well. Try moist heat and lightly rub the injection sight. 150mg/mL of Prop will hert. How is the Test Enth/Prop mixed in? Oil or PEG? If oil, the BA% may be to high on the final mix. If PEG, then there is your answer, PEG tends to leave the injection sight sore for a few days. I hope the stuff did not crystallize in your muscle, if that happens, then your screwed. Good luck and drop me a line bro.

Its filtered in soybean oil, and my blend was made with 4% BA and 10% BB...so they say it shouldnt be an isue since most ug prop is made with like 5/15 combo. They dont think it crystalized. What do you think?
 
Juice Authority said:
but that's 1000mgs of compounds in a 2mls shot.

I would say thats it right there bro. I personally find shorter esters, and blends to more painful than longer ones. Eg. Prop more painful than enanthate, and sust more painful than prop.

I just shot 2 mls of 1ml omnadren and 1ml NPP on monday. The pain just started to go away yesterday. The pure 2ml NPP shots (with no omnadren, are pretty much pain free). Here is what I do, and a few tips for ya I have collected from folks the last little while.

- I know many people who have an electric massager, and swear by them for after injects. I have not personally used one, but would like to try one.

- Heat the juice before shooting it (lowers viscosity of oil and allows for quicker dispertion of the chemical so you have less irritating substance concentrated in one area, this is especially common with Winny or Suspension thats in an aqueous solution).

- Start injecting in the morning! Injecting before you hit the sack and then lying still for 8 hours while your sleep doesn't help soreness. The gear just seems to sit in a pile in your inj site. I am very lazy sometimes when it comes to injects so I'll wait till about 12 or even 1am then finally get around to doin it, and then Im sore as fuck the next day.

- massage the area thoroughly after you inject to speed up the dispertion of the depot, an electric massager would be ideal.

- This one really helps for me. Apply Ben Gay to the injection location when you are done. It will increase blood flow to the area, again speeding dispertion of the depot. This stuff is cheap and OTC, get some.

- If you are still sufferening, you may want to dilute your gear with a sterile oil.

You will probably always experience a bit of gear, depending on the type of gear you are using. So ... there is always the solution that you ...... "Suck it up princess" lol. For me there are only 2 steroids that I have used that cause a lot of pain.

Sust/Omnadren
Prop

In that order. Everything else I have used is just slight pain. Sust/Omnas leaves me feeling some someone took a baseball bat to me.

Good luck princess! lol :nopity:

Mavy

- get some Ben Gay
 
Mavy said:
I would say thats it right there bro. I personally find shorter esters, and blends to more painful than longer ones. Eg. Prop more painful than enanthate, and sust more painful than prop.

I just shot 2 mls of 1ml omnadren and 1ml NPP on monday. The pain just started to go away yesterday. The pure 2ml NPP shots (with no omnadren, are pretty much pain free). Here is what I do, and a few tips for ya I have collected from folks the last little while.

- I know many people who have an electric massager, and swear by them for after injects. I have not personally used one, but would like to try one.

- Heat the juice before shooting it (lowers viscosity of oil and allows for quicker dispertion of the chemical so you have less irritating substance concentrated in one area, this is especially common with Winny or Suspension thats in an aqueous solution).

- Start injecting in the morning! Injecting before you hit the sack and then lying still for 8 hours while your sleep doesn't help soreness. The gear just seems to sit in a pile in your inj site. I am very lazy sometimes when it comes to injects so I'll wait till about 12 or even 1am then finally get around to doin it, and then Im sore as fuck the next day.

- massage the area thoroughly after you inject to speed up the dispertion of the depot, an electric massager would be ideal.

- This one really helps for me. Apply Ben Gay to the injection location when you are done. It will increase blood flow to the area, again speeding dispertion of the depot. This stuff is cheap and OTC, get some.

- If you are still sufferening, you may want to dilute your gear with a sterile oil.

You will probably always experience a bit of gear, depending on the type of gear you are using. So ... there is always the solution that you ...... "Suck it up princess" lol. For me there are only 2 steroids that I have used that cause a lot of pain.

Sust/Omnadren
Prop

In that order. Everything else I have used is just slight pain. Sust/Omnas leaves me feeling some someone took a baseball bat to me.

Good luck princess! lol :nopity:

Mavy

- get some Ben Gay

I don't know whether to thank you or tell you to go fuck yourself - lol. I'm torn on that one but the info was very helpful. The lab said they would exchange it for something else. Even with sterile oil I don't want to chance being in this pain.
 
Juice Authority said:
I don't know whether to thank you or tell you to go fuck yourself - lol. I'm torn on that one but the info was very helpful. The lab said they would exchange it for something else. Even with sterile oil I don't want to chance being in this pain.


Uh ... I will take the thank you instead, if I have any choice in the matter. lol :bigkiss: . I would try what I mentioned above before swaping the shyte out, sounds like a nice combo. Also, you may want to divide injects up, i.e., put 1ml in each glute instead of 2 ml in one. I have never taken 1 gram of juice in 1 shot before, but I can imagine that may be some of whats behind the pain. Maybe try 500mg per shot in 2 different spots. 2 shots per week still aint bad with the concentrations you have.

Mavy
 
I'd wait it out a little longer. I've had pain go 4-5 days sometimes, from using QV prop and GTP Prop. I wouldn't really lookin forward to tellin the doc my problem anyway.
 
Juice Authority said:
I'm using an Enan/Prop mix. It's got 250mgs of Enan and close to 150mgs of Prop per ml. The I took the shot on Monday and now it's Friday and the pain hasn't really subsided all that much. Any suggestions? Should I go see a doc or wait it out some more?

Is your Prop/Enanthat mixture a Vet version? If so that explains why. I use the Bulgarian Prop now and it is painless. All of the vet grade gear that I used in the past has messed my arms and glutes up. I go strictly with human grade gear now.
 
BLACKDOOG said:
Is your Prop/Enanthat mixture a Vet version? If so that explains why. I use the Bulgarian Prop now and it is painless. All of the vet grade gear that I used in the past has messed my arms and glutes up. I go strictly with human grade gear now.

No, it was from a UG a lab but it's not the lab's fault. I asked for a higher than usual concentration of Prop.
 
liquidmuscle said:
when i use prop i also apply icy/hot it helps take the limp away

Yeah, I've been icing it the last couple of days and it does help. I'm on day 6 now and this is getting ridiculous.
 
i love prop but i hate the pain that comes about 4hrs later and yes it lasts almost for a wk and by that time i have already rotated inject sites and am back at the same site ready to put myself thru the pain again, man the shit we do to ourselves :p icy/hot seems to help but then i am at work all day smelling like it, i also leave the prop filled syringe under hot water for about 5mins to help it shoot as well
 
Juice Authority said:
I don't know whether to thank you or tell you to go fuck yourself - lol.


:FRlol:

Any consulation, I shot 1cc of prop into my delt ealier and it's swollen like a mofo (typical) and ditto on my glute from a 1cc poke of Stanol50.

;)
 
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