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Ingram's shoulders are done!

Ingram

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My shoulders have allways been a problem for me, they are allways hurting from training. Anyhow, I've taken the last 2 weeks off and they are starting to feel better again. I'd like to head back to the gym this week and start working on strengthening my supraspinatus (rotatory cuff).

I was wondering what exercises you guys/gals suggest for rehabilitation. I'm really only looking for advice from people who have gone through this or are qualified to offer advice.

Thanks,
Ingram
 
NICE! I just got back to the gym last night from a 3 week break and my shoulder got a lot better too!

Very light front lat raises seem to work.

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i seperated my shoulder b4

do light cuff work 2x week, on upper body days. light like 10-25 reps. do 1 or 2 exercises each time. dont sluff it off.

sorry i dont have any pics , but there are some sites that have good examples , really need the pics to understand it.
 
Do you have any bands?

You should talk to Spatts...seriously.

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
Do you have any bands?

You should talk to Spatts...seriously.

B True

My gym has bands I can use. I talked to my pro trainer and she is suggesting bands too. I'd definitely like to hear Spatts input on this...

-Ingram
 
Ingram said:
My shoulders have allways been a problem for me, they are allways hurting from training. Anyhow, I've taken the last 2 weeks off and they are starting to feel better again. I'd like to head back to the gym this week and start working on strengthening my supraspinatus (rotatory cuff).

Great to hear that. My left rotator bothers me from time to time, and when it flares up...ohh, man. So I sympathize.

I was wondering what exercises you guys/gals suggest for rehabilitation. I'm really only looking for advice from people who have gone through this or are qualified to offer advice.

Thanks,
Ingram

Find a Shoulder Horn if you can. That's truly all I'm qualified to say. And don't forget your ice, even well after the pain isn't an issue, for a good three weeks.

Btw, Ingram, what kind of bodyfat are you carrying in your avatar picture? You're a thick sumbitch and look really good, but your abs...my God! They're better than many pro bodybuilders', especially in the sense that they just look STRONG. I haven't seen such thick, well-separated abs in quite awhile.
 
My rotator cuff has been royally fucked for close to a year now. I recently started using a hammer strength military press machine and it does seem to feel a lot better, but I still get a good pump from it
 
I had 2 years where I could barely lift due to severe rotator cuff problems and muscular imbalances...

What I do now...
On chest days I end my routine with 3 sets 10 of cuban rotations.

I've been thinking about adding lying external rotations on another day to make sure I get them really good...

But ever since I added the cuban rotation my shoulders have felt a LOT better...

That and I have been getting consistant deep tissue massages at least once a month for the last 6 months which helps break down any scar tissue and keeps your tendons cleaner so they dont rub on any joints.
 
I had 2 years where I could barely lift due to severe rotator cuff problems and muscular imbalances...

What I do now...
On chest days I end my routine with 3 sets 10 of cuban rotations.

I've been thinking about adding lying external rotations on another day to make sure I get them really good...

But ever since I added the cuban rotation my shoulders have felt a LOT better...

That and I have been getting consistant deep tissue massages at least once a month for the last 6 months which helps break down any scar tissue and keeps your tendons cleaner(scar tissue wise) so they dont rub on any joints.
 
I wrecked my rotator pretty hard last January. My last decent bench was 405, then for the following year, the empty bar hurt bad. Before my back surgery, I was doing cleans from the rack to work them with fairly heavy weights. I think that helped. I like to go heavy in the gym and get out, so I use a couple of fairly light dumbells at home to focus on my rotators. I hit them vertically and horizontally with some light static holds. I've been lazy to get bands, but I will soon.

I've always had strong shoulders so I never figured I'd have to work my rotators specifically. I've been paying for my stupidity for over a year now.

Good luck man
 
I used some of the exercises from the page, and made a complex I do at the end of every workout where I bench, basicly I do some 3-4 exercises one after the other without any rest twice.

Cuffs feeling prety damn strong these days
 
gmanlax7 said:
possible you could get a vid of that complex, the 3-4 exercises in a row?

Maybe - although it will be one long ass clip :)

basicly I do this after I finish my dip, row and bench workout - each for 10 reps - one after the other - see link for exercise pics

complex done through twice

1) 45 degree incline bench front y raises (face down thumbs up if your shoulder has impingement pain)
2) elbow on knee L-Lateral cuff raise
3) 45 degree incline bench front side raises - move arms out and downwards instead of straight out to the sides
4) Subscrap rotations - holding last rep for a 15 sec count

after that complex is done I do another complex - again twice

1) standing forward leaning (70 degree angle)dumbell shrug rows - thumbs facing forwards - sorta like a shurg with a partial upright row - nice stimulation on your traps, rear delts and medial delts without the risk of upright rows and lateral raises. Heavy weight is not needed and you lean forward like your doing a Yates style barbell row or hang clean
2) 45 degree face down cuban raise semi clean - sorta done ballistcly

after this my entire shoudler girdle , and back muscles are on fire :)
Not only will your cuffs get strong and healthy, but all the small back msucles around the shoudler area will beef up, as well your side and rear delts, and trap thickness at the back and bottom.

be sure to stretch the hell out of pecs and cuffs as well ( elbow out hands on hip - pull the elbow forward with the other arm - or lean on a wall to apply pressure)

You can also do the forward leaning shrug rows first up by themselves - its good mass exercise for width, trap thickness and rear delt size. A bit of bicep as well. These with overhead presses are all you need for shoulder size IMO :)
I actually do these shrug rows with the above dip/row/bench workout as well as with my overhead press/chin/row 2nd upperbody workout - ie twice a week. Plus my traps get hit twice a week from olylifts as well :)
 
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For those with chronic shoulder problems I will once again (in addition to RC exercises) that you look into prolotherapy, it will really help to tighten things up.

prolonews.com has a lot of good info and a listing of docs.
 
rjl296 said:
no prolo in canada:(
There has to be someone :). Maybe send Dr hauser an e-mail and see if he knows of anyone. Also sometimes a few of these guys will travel.
 
Ingram...

I had all but given up on BB bench press due to intense pain in my shoulders. I am fairly sertain it was rotators, although I never had a doc check it.

I started rotator cuff work three times week on each day that puts stress on my cuffs. (Chest/tri, shoulder and legs day's.) I also switched to PL style of bench press.

I use DB cleans for 2-3 sets of 15-20. Aboiut 10-11lbs each hand. I am benching about 70lbs more than I had ever benched BB style, with absolutely no pain at all.

I'm not doctor or a PT, and I haven't had a "serious" shoulder injury. But what I listed above has made a WORLD of difference for me.


Hope this helps,
Joker
 
I always do rotator cuff exercises before chest/shoulder/tri day.


That being said, lately I've been getting shoulder pain in both shoulders. I also think I may add another day of rotator cuff exercises.

I have also cut out flat benches in favor of inclines.
 
rjl296 said:
thx - Dr. hauser. who is that ??
He is the doc who owns the site prolonews.com he is one of the guru's in the prolo world.
 
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