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tfuray

tfuray

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been banging this nasty qv winny, well 3 days ago I shot some in my tricep. Damn arm got swollen all the way past my elbow. Its gone down alot and its not so red any more but its still warm to the touch and pretty sore. Thing is its not any more red or painfull in any particular spot just my whole tricep, could this be an abcess, go to doc or what?
 
do you have anti-biotics?

if swelling and redness have reduced wait a day or two, if it does not resolve then go to the doctor.

however you are more than justified to go now, its probably not essential at this point
 
I can get some anti's so I think I'll do that and see if it helps. Thanx brother, always a helper
 
tfuray said:
been banging this nasty qv winny, well 3 days ago I shot some in my tricep. Damn arm got swollen all the way past my elbow. Its gone down alot and its not so red any more but its still warm to the touch and pretty sore. Thing is its not any more red or painfull in any particular spot just my whole tricep, could this be an abcess, go to doc or what?
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Go to a doctor immediately! asap bro!
 
PLEASE, dont use anti-Bs unless they are given to you by a DOCTOR......

I get some swelling sometimes when i shot in my delts, the whole delt head down to the tri gets sore and swollen (a little) but it goes away.
 
bigrand said:
PLEASE, dont use anti-Bs unless they are given to you by a DOCTOR......

I get some swelling sometimes when i shot in my delts, the whole delt head down to the tri gets sore and swollen (a little) but it goes away.
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whats your thinking on that? afraid of superbugs? or something else? just curious...

on the second agree, such inflammation while not good is often due to BA/BB content- though this can easily lead to secondary infection if it does not resolve.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
whats your thinking on that? afraid of superbugs? or something else? just curious...

on the second agree, such inflammation while not good is often due to BA/BB content- though this can easily lead to secondary infection if it does not resolve.
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I just dont think people should self medicate (improper dose/duration) with such things as Anti-Bs.......it has been part of the reason of MRSA or VRE emergance. Would be best to know the exact pathogen to determine best anti-b to use anyway and you cant do this inhouse. Not to mention, most abcesses need to be drained and packed becasue anti-bs have a hard time getting from the blood stream into the enclosed abcess.
These bugs evolve with the best of them and have been on this planet forever.....you should know what you are doing when treating them.

I have a lot of respect for bacteria after a few yrs of micro/med micro i guess!
 
I just dont think people should self medicate (improper dose/duration) with such things as Anti-Bs.......it has been part of the reason of MRSA or VRE emergance. Would be best to know the exact pathogen to determine best anti-b to use anyway and you cant do this inhouse. Not to mention, most abcesses need to be drained and packed becasue anti-bs have a hard time getting from the blood stream into the enclosed abcess.
These bugs evolve with the best of them and have been on this planet forever.....you should know what you are doing when treating them.

I have a lot of respect for bacteria after a few yrs of micro/med micro i guess!
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HAHA not nockin you or anything but we shouldnt take anti-b unless prescribed but we can take steroids clomid, nolva, hcg, ext.. So use shit for pregnant women but not anti b?
 
bca21 said:
HAHA not nockin you or anything but we shouldnt take anti-b unless prescribed but we can take steroids clomid, nolva, hcg, ext.. So use shit for pregnant women but not anti b?
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I think you didn't read him right. It's important to know what you are fighting. Is it a gram negative or gram positive bacterium? Are you going to use a broad spectrum or narrow spectrum antibiotic? How do you tell the difference and determine what should be used? If you take the route that we will just use a broad spectrum antibiotic and the infection is not cleared you have just used your body to culture drug resistant strains of bacterium. This is not a good thing.

And as for the use of steroids and clomid, etc. How many times on this forum have there been idiots that haven't done any research and want information about some cycle they pulled out of their ass? Well using the wrong antibiotic is worse. If you kill yourself using some cycle you pulled out of your ass well that's to bad for you. But if you culture drug resistant bacterium in your body from using the wrong antibiotic that's to bad for all of us.
 
Big_Joe said:
I think you didn't read him right. It's important to know what you are fighting. Is it a gram negative or gram positive bacterium? Are you going to use a broad spectrum or narrow spectrum antibiotic? How do you tell the difference and determine what should be used? If you take the route that we will just use a broad spectrum antibiotic and the infection is not cleared you have just used your body to culture drug resistant strains of bacterium. This is not a good thing.

And as for the use of steroids and clomid, etc. How many times on this forum have there been idiots that haven't done any research and want information about some cycle they pulled out of their ass? Well using the wrong antibiotic is worse. If you kill yourself using some cycle you pulled out of your ass well that's to bad for you. But if you culture drug resistant bacterium in your body from using the wrong antibiotic that's to bad for all of us.
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Absofuckinloutly.
You have to be very carefull with Anti-bs becasue bacteria are living evolving organisms and if you dont treat them right it leads to problems for you (continuing infection, resistance) and everyone else (resistance). AAS are another league of drugs.
If people misuse AAS, they stop and return to homeostasis, thats about it. Anti-bs .....not so easy.
 
Yes its legit bro and I've had it for about 7 months. Its gotten much better, not red anymore but still a little sore and theres a little swelling in there as my tri looks kinda wierd( not much shape as usual). Thing is I'm in the military so I cant just go to the doc and tell him I banged some shit in my tri, but my medic is working on squaring me away with the right anti-b, he doesnt think its an abcess
 
macrophage69alpha said:
so you could have said "yes", superbug :)
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Smartass!
Its not just superbug, its his health....if he treats it wrong (likely considering he wouldnt know what the pathogen is and its anti-B suceptability) he will end up dead. Without cleaning out the abcess, the systemic anti-b isnt gonna do much.
 
generally most infection will respond to broad spec, though understand and somewhat concur with your perspective.

however with triclosan and the host of other anti-bacterials flooding the environment are more likely to lead to "super bugs" than occasional innappropriate use.

if its an abcess, obviously the treatment is different. Sounds like a mild local infection that has spread through the lymph or at least initiating a fairly large local lymph reaction.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
generally most infection will respond to broad spec, though understand and somewhat concur with your perspective.

however with triclosan and the host of other anti-bacterials flooding the environment are more likely to lead to "super bugs" than occasional innappropriate use.

if its an abcess, obviously the treatment is different. Sounds like a mild local infection that has spread through the lymph or at least initiating a fairly large local lymph reaction.
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Agree with the topical problem...although they are different anti-bs then taken systemicly....people have led to the resistance of most B-lactams and vanco......... theres too many types of bacteria....strep, staph, micro, entero, bacillus, listeria, coryne, lacto, nocard, pseudo, vibrio and many more.....I think all infections should be cultured and APIed at least...a broad isnt broad enough....although a lot of the above have S/S that vary greatly and wouldnt apply in this dudes case.

If there was lymphatic involvment, he would most likely be showing signs of bacteremia (fever, malaise, ect), i think its just inflamation (BA or BB, or just plain ol irritation).

Diagnostic Micro has made me anal about this.....but im only this picky with bacteria (and cancer), not really viruses.
 
bigrand said:
i think its just inflamation (BA or BB, or just plain ol irritation).
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also agree.

note- infections or reactions of the lymph, particularly when localized do not have the fever, malaise, etc typically associated with systemic lymphatic infection, at least IME.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
also agree.

note- infections or reactions of the lymph, particularly when localized do not have the fever, malaise, etc typically associated with systemic lymphatic infection, at least IME.
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You see involvement of both the lymphatic and vascular systems (bacteremia)...once disseminated that is through the lyphatic system....didnt you know meant localized.
 
Thanx for the help fellas, My doc said he thinks its a hematoma (prolly not spelled right). Not red any more, no fever, ect. ect. He said its just gonna hurt like hell for a while and its not that big a deal. Anybody had to deal with this before, and how long should i expect this to last?
 
alright the med forum aint really got nothin for me so does anyone else have any advice for dealing with a hematoma? thanx in advance
 
why are people still shooting winny, ima noob and what i've read here i'd never ever shoot it when you can drink it and it seems to cause problems all the time
 
I know several people who swear its more effective to shoot rather than drink. Close friends so ima continue to take their advice.
 
tfuray said:
I know several people who swear its more effective to shoot rather than drink. Close friends so ima continue to take their advice.
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If you want another "hematoma", go ahead and take their advice.....the 1000's of bros who drink it dont know what they are talking about......its the same injected or oral, both are 17AA.

As far as it being a hematoma, it will breakdown by itself over time. They are usually caused by some kind of blunt trauma that causes a lot of tissue damage and bleeding in a spot. I dont think you have one, not from a shot, unless you blew through a vein, still, i think its the winny causing irritation throughout the injected muscle.
 
tfuray said:
I know several people who swear its more effective to shoot rather than drink. Close friends so ima continue to take their advice.
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there is minimal, if any, difference. maybe 10-15%. if you want to minimize first pass, take naringen prior. (or grapefruit juice- high in narigen) Its certainly not worth the scarring that such frequent injections cause.
 
I know its not the winny or else it probably would have happened the other 20 times I shot it, and if theres a 15-20 percent difference then I'll gladly keep sticking.Thanx MACRO
 
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