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Incline Dumbell PR

FatRat said:
Hang on, did I miss somethig? You are not actualy working out for 7 - 8 hours are you? Please tell me you are a gym employee...



haha a little excessive huh? Get that all the time Known as the gym psyco Insane and Violent tatted on my neck metal all over me hehe Its fun though Gotta vent though Cant go out killing people hehe
 
Hang on, did I miss somethig? You are not actualy working out for 7 - 8 hours are you? Please tell me you are a gym employee...
 
FatRat said:
Lol, well I guess its preferable than killing people, for all involved! :)

And all you eat during this 8 hour marathon session is a granola bar and "Speed Stack"? And you say your size and strength has plateud for the last year, thats not surprising!


haha Well I only do 2 of those sessions a week and eat alot when Im not in the gym.
 
Lol, well I guess its preferable to killing people, for all involved! :)

And all you eat during this 8 hour marathon session is a granola bar and "Speed Stack"? And you say your size and strength has plateud for the last year, thats not surprising!
 
Warpath said:
What are the benefits of db presses vs. bench presses?

Hey Warpath. ThanX for responding. Personally I like barbell presses on the incline and flat bench more then dumbells. I hardly ever use dumbells for pressing anymore(only when I train shoulders). I can never get myself sore on a stictly dumbell pressing routine. Soreness to me is a gauge of effectiveness for growth. Though my training is a mix of BBing and PLing. I like the barbells better also because I can do forced reps, heavy negatives partials and things like that. When my arms give out with a pair of dumbells they just crash down, and even with a spot I cant push myself as far. However I know alot of people who swear by dumbells and are huge. Thats just me Hope that helps
 
Walkingbeast, since you are online and this thread has popped up to the top, I hope you don’t mind me asking about these workouts, as you have got me intrigued! From the very fact that you posted this thread about a PR and your stated frustration at hitting a plateau, it would seem that you look forward to progressing in the gym. Therefore, how do you justify this type of 7 or 8 hour workout if it is clearly going to be detrimental to your goals? (not killing people is an acceptable answer btw)

Also, could you post up what you actually do in this time? Im finding it hard to picture what sort of workout could be achieved over such a long duration with minimal food…

Thanks :)
 
FatRat said:
Walkingbeast, since you are online and this thread has popped up to the top, I hope you don’t mind me asking about these workouts, as you have got me intrigued! From the very fact that you posted this thread about a PR and your stated frustration at hitting a plateau, it would seem that you look forward to progressing in the gym. Therefore, how do you justify this type of 7 or 8 hour workout if it is clearly going to be detrimental to your goals? (not killing people is an acceptable answer btw)

Also, could you post up what you actually do in this time? Im finding it hard to picture what sort of workout could be achieved over such a long duration with minimal food…

Thanks :)


Hi Rat. ThanX for the response. Im not sure my routine is counter-productive since I havent tested it long enough. In the 9 years Ive lifted I have tried alot of things, and certain things like low volume ,short lifting sessions never seem to work for me. I generally like to rip myself apart each time I enter the gym. This type of extreme routine is only something Ive been testing for the last two years. The first year I got great progress. (55lbs on my bench and 315 ,a weight I had never touched w/out assistance for 4 easy reps unassisted, not to mention over 130lbs on my deadlift and rows with 375) This is a big increase for me in one year, so Im continuing the routine for now until it stops yeilding results. As far as what I do in these 7-8 hour routines heres an example for back:

(Note that I eat very little as you mentioned, and Im able to push myself through the fatigue , lightheadedness fairly well, havent passed out yet haha, Not sure if its optimum for me to eat like this but I do have digestive conditions and fucked up nerves)

5 sets of Lat Pulldowns: 165X12 (warm-up) 205X12 225X12 275x10-12 and 305 (5lb plate added) for 13 (body momentum used)

8 sets of partial deadlifts: 135X20 (warm-up) 225x8 (warm-up) 315x1 405x1 495x1 515x1 535X1 then back down to 405 for 13-17 reps (bouncing weight off pins at times) (Partials done on power rack with pins set one notch from the floor)

then on to:

5 sets of barbell hack squats from the floor: 315X10 (warm-up)
405X5 (warm-up) 495X1 545X1 565X1

Then:
4 sets of barbell rows: 225x25 275X20 315X17 365x8

3 sets on pin loaded rowing machine to finish off with stack for reps

Chin-ups done between sets of deadlifts during rest period.

Also sometimes I alternate dumbell rows with barbell rows and might do 3 sets of them 160lb dumbells for 16 reps


Since deadlifts are the staple of my back routine , I do them after lat pulldowns and rest long between sets. Deadlifts and HackLifts are why my back routine takes so long. I will attempt my maxes many times and also try to break records with reps on certain weights. So your looking at well over 30 sets for back. I have done workouts where Ive knocked out over 40 sets in an hour, but never really gave me the results I was looking for. Not only that but Id probably be dead if I tried to do that with these weights. haha Ive never really done anything the conventional way. I live on a night schedule, just cuz its natural to me. I go to sleep around 9am typically, sleep real long sometimes wake up real late. I eat high fat , high protein high carbs high calories whenever I can. Just do what seems to work for me. My chest routine for the first year used to be something like 30 sets also (all barbell presses, sometimes even all flat benching) But lately Ive cut the volume down and just concentrate more on setting PR's (which has only happened once in the last year) So Im down to maybe 12 sets on my flat and incline I just take all night to do them. Like to rest psyche up take my time etc Sometimes I finish in 4 hours on chest day. Hope that helps ThanX for the comments












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You say you'll stop this 8 hour marathon once you stop making gains. From what your saying it seems like your not making the best gains. You spend more time in the gym with your sessions than a lot of haredcore lifters spend in a week or 2's worth. You get big by eating and sleeping not by training non stop.
 
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