in week 4..not happy so far

[nygiants]

i am now in week 4.......

Week 1-14 Sus @ 500mg/week
Week 1-10 Deca @ 500mg/week
Week 8-14 50mg Winstrol ED
week 1-14 Arimidex .5mg 2x/week
Week 14-18: HCG 500IU's e3d

60mg nolva ed for 1 wk 14 days after last shot.
40mg nolva ed for 2 wk
20mg Nolva ed for 1 wk

Week Clenbuterol
8 40mcgs/ED
9 60mcgs/ED
10 --OFF--
11 --OFF--
12 60mcgs/ED
13 80mcgs/ED
14 --OFF--
15 80mcgs/ED

Typically by now I have gained about 8lbs and my strength is noticeable and Im harder. The sus im taking is supposedly 400mg/ml. I don't think it is. I have a feeling its under dosed. Recently I bumped up the dosage to a full ML. Ill see if this makes a difference.

Strange though, I have gotten a slight hardness near my right nipple, little painful. So I started the Novla early. It seems to eb working. SO I am getting sides but none of the gains I typically get. In the past I have done week 1-6 25mg/day of dbol. I was talked out of this by a buddy in the gym. He said it just gets me bloat. So now its just sus and deca.

I made slight gains, but I have been eatign alot and clean and training hard. So I think I could have made the same gains without.

your thoughts? Do I have fake shit or am I being impatient?

 

[Ezekiel]

i am now in week 4.......

Week 1-14 Sus @ 500mg/week
Week 1-10 Deca @ 500mg/week
Week 8-14 50mg Winstrol ED
week 1-14 Arimidex .5mg 2x/week
Week 14-18: HCG 500IU's e3d

60mg nolva ed for 1 wk 14 days after last shot.
40mg nolva ed for 2 wk
20mg Nolva ed for 1 wk

Week Clenbuterol
8 40mcgs/ED
9 60mcgs/ED
10 --OFF--
11 --OFF--
12 60mcgs/ED
13 80mcgs/ED
14 --OFF--
15 80mcgs/ED

Typically by now I have gained about 8lbs and my strength is noticeable and Im harder. The sus im taking is supposedly 400mg/ml. I don't think it is. I have a feeling its under dosed. Recently I bumped up the dosage to a full ML. Ill see if this makes a difference.

Strange though, I have gotten a slight hardness near my right nipple, little painful. So I started the Novla early. It seems to eb working. SO I am getting sides but none of the gains I typically get. In the past I have done week 1-6 25mg/day of dbol. I was talked out of this by a buddy in the gym. He said it just gets me bloat. So now its just sus and deca.

I made slight gains, but I have been eatign alot and clean and training hard. So I think I could have made the same gains without.

your thoughts? Do I have fake shit or am I being impatient?

Most of the Sus I have seen is dosed at 250mg. However, you are only 4 wks in. I would give it another wk or so..

How's your protien intake and rest (sleep)..

How's your libido w/ equal amounts of Dec and sus? Deca really messes up mine... The little blue pill helps, but I don't think it all that good if you himp as much as I do

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nolva kills gains. Why not cut back on the deca instead?

 

[nygiants]

Most of the Sus I have seen is dosed at 250mg. However, you are only 4 wks in. I would give it another wk or so..

How's your protien intake and rest (sleep)..

How's your libido w/ equal amounts of Dec and sus? Deca really messes up mine... The little blue pill helps, but I don't think it all that good if you himp as much as I do

Protein is high. I'm at 40-50g per meal for 5 meals a day. Sleep is normal. My typical 6hrs. My libido is normally high and it has been unaffected by this cycle. BUT.....when Im on....typically im a dog in heat....not this time....

 

[nygiants]

Nolva kills gains. Why not cut back on the deca instead?

I actually started the deca late (week 2). Ive always heard it does wonders for aches and pains. I have 2 bulging disks in my back, loose cartilage in my neck, healing pinched nerve in my shoulder and tendinitis in my left elbow. I haven't seen the benefits of it yet, but its still early. DO you think its hindering my sus gains?

 

[GOLUAN]

Deca is just now kicking in then. Wait another week or so. You should start seeing a lot better gains.....and slow the nolva down a little..it really does supress gains.

 

[nygiants]

Deca is just now kicking in then. Wait another week or so. You should start seeing a lot better gains.....and slow the nolva down a little..it really does supress gains.

I have taken 1 20mg pill a day for a week now. The hardness and pain is almost gone now. DO you thin i should just stop unless it comes back? Or take it every other day?

 

[GOLUAN]

20mg pill of Deca? I must be missing something...

 

[nygiants]

20mg pill of Deca? I must be missing something...

20mg pill of Novladex

 

[slimjim1985]

I think he's referring to Nolva. I think you should stop like others said, it will hinder gains. but if your worried about gyno, then keep running it. up to you. Anyways, I don't think nolva gets rid of existing gyno, thought it just prevents it.?

 

[Ezekiel]

20mg pill of Novladex

i would consider fropping the nolv and maybe up you dex to .5 eod.. That is if you think the lump is gone..

 

[nygiants]

I think he's referring to Nolva. I think you should stop like others said, it will hinder gains. but if your worried about gyno, then keep running it. up to you. Anyways, I don't think nolva gets rid of existing gyno, thought it just prevents it.?

Ive had puberty gyno...removed at 22.......i got some hard to lose fat pockets around my chest recently..had that removed earlier this year.....so yes I want to prevent anythign from happening now.

i can tell that when I feel the hardness and slight pain and take Novla.....i can feel the hardness adn feel the pain go away in a week...so it does work.....its only been a week that ive been taking it....so im not sure if that is hindering my gains.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

you do realize that nolva + deca is a very very bad idea right? If there is any gyno from deca, nolva can actually make it worse.

 

[thelion2005]

i am now in week 4.......

Week 1-14 Sus @ 500mg/week
Week 1-10 Deca @ 500mg/week
Week 8-14 50mg Winstrol ED
week 1-14 Arimidex .5mg 2x/week
Week 14-18: HCG 500IU's e3d

60mg nolva ed for 1 wk 14 days after last shot.
40mg nolva ed for 2 wk
20mg Nolva ed for 1 wk

Week Clenbuterol
8 40mcgs/ED
9 60mcgs/ED
10 --OFF--
11 --OFF--
12 60mcgs/ED
13 80mcgs/ED
14 --OFF--
15 80mcgs/ED

Typically by now I have gained about 8lbs and my strength is noticeable and Im harder. The sus im taking is supposedly 400mg/ml. I don't think it is. I have a feeling its under dosed. Recently I bumped up the dosage to a full ML. Ill see if this makes a difference.

Strange though, I have gotten a slight hardness near my right nipple, little painful. So I started the Novla early. It seems to eb working. SO I am getting sides but none of the gains I typically get. In the past I have done week 1-6 25mg/day of dbol. I was talked out of this by a buddy in the gym. He said it just gets me bloat. So now its just sus and deca.

I made slight gains, but I have been eatign alot and clean and training hard. So I think I could have made the same gains without.

your thoughts? Do I have fake shit or am I being impatient?

You have weeks with 1,000 mg of juice. That should have shown results very quickly and a lot of different sides.

Something is not right here. A big tip off for me when aas kicks in is a jump in blood pressure and oily skin and increased sexual response. My strength climbs almost every workout and I have to be careful of tearing tissue. Anything happening to you like this?

 

[HAYEZ]

your not seeing gains becaus eya just started your cycle
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test takes about 4-6 weeks for gains to be out there...deca 6+

have you ever cycled before? cause your not even giving it time to work and your complaingin about underdosing

 

[HAYEZ]

You have weeks with 1,000 mg of juice. That should have shown results very quickly and a lot of different sides.

Something is not right here. A big tip off for me when aas kicks in is a jump in blood pressure and oily skin and increased sexual response. My strength climbs almost every workout and I have to be careful of tearing tissue. Anything happening to you like this?

not everyone gets sides...just because ya got a gram in you doesnt mean your gonna make gains in a few weeks

 

[ALIN]

i am now in week 4.......

Week 1-14 Sus @ 500mg/week
Week 1-10 Deca @ 500mg/week
Week 8-14 50mg Winstrol ED
week 1-14 Arimidex .5mg 2x/week
Week 14-18: HCG 500IU's e3d

60mg nolva ed for 1 wk 14 days after last shot.
40mg nolva ed for 2 wk
20mg Nolva ed for 1 wk

Week Clenbuterol
8 40mcgs/ED
9 60mcgs/ED
10 --OFF--
11 --OFF--
12 60mcgs/ED
13 80mcgs/ED
14 --OFF--
15 80mcgs/ED

Typically by now I have gained about 8lbs and my strength is noticeable and Im harder. The sus im taking is supposedly 400mg/ml. I don't think it is. I have a feeling its under dosed. Recently I bumped up the dosage to a full ML. Ill see if this makes a difference.

Strange though, I have gotten a slight hardness near my right nipple, little painful. So I started the Novla early. It seems to eb working. SO I am getting sides but none of the gains I typically get. In the past I have done week 1-6 25mg/day of dbol. I was talked out of this by a buddy in the gym. He said it just gets me bloat. So now its just sus and deca.

I made slight gains, but I have been eatign alot and clean and training hard. So I think I could have made the same gains without.

your thoughts? Do I have fake shit or am I being impatient?

Is it possible that it could be your diet or over or under training?