Impossible to get big w/o steroids?

[blut wump]

Here's a link to Madcow's site. Move onto the Intermediate program if you've exhausted Rippetoe's.

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/table_of_contents_thread.htm

 

[Chambewy20]

Was. But before heading over to the dark side, he got the best deadlift in his class at his first comp and won his second, so the point stands.

I don't see the comparison.... first comp you always geek out and second comp you have so much more knowledge from everything to training, diet and the pure intimidation factor... add some beefwater... ah who cares...

Anyways, get what you can get, odds are dude will stop training as soon as he's off and you'll leave him in the dust...

Congrats on your gains and revel in the fact you got them naturally... there are no excuses this way, you got what you got cuz you earned it...

 

[blut wump]

lol @ beefwater

 

[Stillskinny]

Here's a link to Madcow's site. Move onto the Intermediate program if you've exhausted Rippetoe's.

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/table_of_contents_thread.htm

thanks ive read about the 5x5 ill try that one. i have another question, i started the WSSB program by defranco last week, is that a solid program, or should i switch over to 5x5?
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/archive/articles_westside.htm

 

[Sub-Zero]

yeah i agree, my friends stupid for juicing because i dont think he knows anything about it at all, except that his 19y/o brother does it so it must work
btw can someone guide me to a good workout routine for begginners like me? ive been on rippetoes for along time now and i think i plateaued. thanks

his 19 year old brother is a jackass too.

im not trying to be a dick but just tryign to make sure you understand what everyone is saying about the no juice

 

[anotherbutters]

thanks ive read about the 5x5 ill try that one. i have another question, i started the WSSB program by defranco last week, is that a solid program, or should i switch over to 5x5?
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/archive/articles_westside.htm

It all depends on which exercises you've picked for the WSSB. What did you do last week?

 

[Chambewy20]

thanks ive read about the 5x5 ill try that one. i have another question, i started the WSSB program by defranco last week, is that a solid program, or should i switch over to 5x5?
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/archive/articles_westside.htm

Dude it looks pretty cool... not to far from Westside really and incorporates RM (repition method) which is what me and my guys have been adding...

Maybe I read this sub-consciously and zapped it to the young guy in our group that's trying to kill my old ass.... lol

 

[Cynical Simian]

I don't see the comparison.... first comp you always geek out and second comp you have so much more knowledge from everything to training, diet and the pure intimidation factor... add some beefwater... ah who cares...

I'm glad you don't see the comparison, since I didn't think I was making one. I was trying to prevent confusion about mm107's natty status while pointing out that SS's point about his incredible progress from good training and diet alone was still valid (the second comp was still before he began his cycle).

 

[Stillskinny]

It all depends on which exercises you've picked for the WSSB. What did you do last week?

Monday:
Dumbbell Bench
Barbell rows
Dips
weighted crunches
Dubmbell flyes

 

[Chambewy20]

I'm glad you don't see the comparison, since I didn't think I was making one. I was trying to prevent confusion about mm107's natty status while pointing out that SS's point about his incredible progress from good training and diet alone was still valid (the second comp was still before he began his cycle).

Your post didn't really make sense but assumed you were comparing... needed more info and now I got it.... It began about darkside then had something about two competitions which I assumed was pre and post beefwater