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thanks blueta2.

I think most people are realizing that this is an emotional issue with a knee jerk over reaction.

problem is, people just don't see anything wrong with that.

My friend let her cat out on Friday and it got into a fight with another cat and is now dead.

Intentional or not, should she face any charges?
 
Lestat said:
thanks blueta2.

I think most people are realizing that this is an emotional issue with a knee jerk over reaction.

Where are you getting this statistic from? Most? LMFAO. And I don't think BlueTa2 is defending Mr. Vick.


Lestat said:
My friend let her cat out on Friday and it got into a fight with another cat and is now dead.

Wow. Nature. Not intentional disgusting cruelty from a being capable of reason and remorse, and knowing the difference between right and wrong.


Lestat said:
Intentional or not, should she face any charges?

No.





NEXT!

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Lestat said:
thanks blueta2.

I think most people are realizing that this is an emotional issue with a knee jerk over reaction.

problem is, people just don't see anything wrong with that.

My friend let her cat out on Friday and it got into a fight with another cat and is now dead.

Intentional or not, should she face any charges?

Did she hang or drowned an animal or sanction the fight?

That is a fucking stupid analogy.

Being charged after breaking the law is not a knee-jerk reaction. I can't even fathom your poiint of view except for just trying to stir the pot.

"But it was just a little felony and only a few animals"
 
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Lestat said:
thanks blueta2.

I think most people are realizing that this is an emotional issue with a knee jerk over reaction.

problem is, people just don't see anything wrong with that.

My friend let her cat out on Friday and it got into a fight with another cat and is now dead.

Intentional or not, should she face any charges?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intention_(criminal)
 
Lestat said:
people go to prison for unintenionally killing humans though right?
yes of course, because there is a law against causing someone else's death. in the case of an owner's animal causing the death of another owner's animal or a person, the owner is liable and accountable for that. maybe there is a law, maybe there isnt a law but there is still accountability and the owner would be responsible.
take the case of biteme and his neighbor who wants to sue him. if his pet caused the death of the neighbors pets, then he is accountable for that. and there will be consequences - whatever our judicial system says the consequences are.
 
mountain muscle said:
Did she hang or drowned an animal or sanction the fight?

That is a fucking stupid analogy.

Being charged after breaking the law is not a knee-jerk reaction. I can't even fathom your poiint of view except for just trying to stir the pot.

"But it was just a little felony and only a few animals"
I've never disputed that what he did was illegal, or wrong, or even cruel.

The outrage and attention this is getting is an emotional knee jerk.

I have realized that I am just different then a lot of people in this regard, and its not the first. I don't think we should be putting people in Prison for cruelty to animals. Doesn't feel right to me personally. People automatically read that and think it somehow means I don't think that animal cruelty is WRONG, or that I support Vick's actions. That couldn't be further from the truth.

I'm different from a lot of people in a lot of other ways as well, and I think its usually a pretty positive thing.

Ultimately I look at the world as a place I live in and try to shape my views and opinions to make it a place that *I* would like to live in.

Let me use another analogy that hits home for me.

I used to have snakes. A lot of people thought this was weird. Only weird people had snakes in their home. Afterall, god punished them after the fall right? They aren't cute and cuddly. Only a weirdo would have them. I'd hate for a bunch of people to get together and decide that my care for snakes was a crime.

But that would never happen right... that is too far fetched.

Well how about how I fed them. Live rats, except I didn't want my precious snakes to get hurt, so I'd step on the rats until they were dead, or at least paralyzed. Sometimes I'd put them in a bag and they'd suffocate, or even the freezer.

All very terrible ways to die. I didn't like that part of owning snakes. You only did it once every few weeks, but still, I felt like the rats had feelings.

What if a bunch of people decided my treatment of those rats constituted a felony? Wanted to send me to prison for it? I could argue all I wanted but I'd be powerless against the emotional majority.

The weird thing is, I can still go out, buy a rat that weighs a solid pound or two, kill it in any manner I see fit and its not a crime, it'd never make the news, and I'd never get punished for it.

Enter jnevi and others explaining how Vick isn't being charged for his actions on dogs... ZzzZZZZZzzzzzzzzz without the dogs, there would be no charges, period.
 
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