If you want to double your gains then double your dose.

[Spectre]

I'd be willing to bet, that just about 99% of people using As started below there natural limit.

Not sure if this is a response/addition to my post, but assuming that it is. I stated WELL below your genetic limit, if you take Joe lifter that has 4 mo of lifting under his belt and give him 300mg test and he eats and trains right for 12 weeks, he can put on another 10lb (or more) than he could have naturally in that time. For a total of 20 lbs. If you through out the freaks (top 5%), I just can't see a well trained and seasoned lifter putting on 15 or 20lbs in 10 weeks on 300mg test.

That being said I believe their is mental aspect to being on the first time. During my first cycle I was far more mentaly in tune than before, I thought to myself "this is for real, make it count!".
So not only do you turn the corner with AS, you step it up a notch too.

 

[wyld1g]

I did the same thing. I only did one cycle though, ten or so years ago. I waited til now to do another one. I'm at 240 now, so I think I'm going to benefit good!

 

[2Thick]

If you use 600mg instead of 300mg per week of test YOU WILL DOUBLE YOUR GAINS. No if's ands or buts about it.

Here is a link to the full study that proves it. Finally.


http://www.anabolicfitness.net/library/Development of models to predict anabolic response.pdf

Yes, but I do not recommend test at all, so there!

 

[Ulter]

It's great having you weigh in here bro.

 

[panerai]

Of course, double dosage doesn't produce double gains.
Take Ronnie Coleman, for example, if he doubles his dosage now, will he gain twice?
On another hand, dosages like 300mg/week of Test are just plain stupid, it's for people who need placebo effect to get somewhere, to be organized. Hirering good personal trainer will get them to the same point, without risk of legal trouble.
In my personal opinion, if you are going to use AAS, evaluate where you are standing, and pick the right dose for you, take into consideration not only theoretical aspects, but real life, what is the best you can do with diet, sleep, your stress level, ability to train and eat regularly, etc...many people neglect it, but it is very important.
500-1000mg/week of AAS is good starting dosage for someone close to his limits of gaining naturally, IMO, for the first cycle.
After that, it has to be increased, as well, as one's ability to eat more(very important, but neglected, by most part).

 

[panerai]

Re: Re: If you want to double your gains then double your dose.

Yes, but I do not recommend test at all, so there!

Let's put it that way, 600mg of Nandrolone is FAR better then 300mg.


Especially, if you use twice as much Test with it, and some dbol...

 

[2Thick]

Re: Re: Re: If you want to double your gains then double your dose.

Let's put it that way, 600mg of Nandrolone is FAR better then 300mg.


Especially, if you use twice as much Test with it, and some dbol...

LOL... I would never recommend 600mg of Deca. That is a pair of man-boobies waiting to grow.

 

[2Thick]

It's great having you weigh in here bro.

Thanks bro. It is always a pleasure to learn from enlightened gurus.

On a side note, the link does not seem to work for me. Is there somewhere else I could read it?

 

[sk*]

Thanks bro. It is always a pleasure to learn from enlightened gurus.

On a side note, the link does not seem to work for me. Is there somewhere else I could read it?

A new link got posted mid way through the thread.

-sk

 

[2Thick]

A new link got posted mid way through the thread.

-sk

I hope that you realize that this thread is 6 pages.