if AAS do not burn fat...

[BrothaBill]

DO they or do they not burn fat? Whats the mechanism, the cause, Lot of academic masturbation about this.
EEEES very simple: before-more fat, after-less fat
Unless of course you go nuts with your diet

 

[The Terminator]

As quoted by Huck.

"Remeber also that winny is pyrogenic. So any fatburning suppliments you take will have a magnified effect when combined with winstrol, provided they are pyrogenic as well."

Heat=calories burned, so when looked at in that way...Yes it could be considered to have fat burning properties...

But remember that I could argue that any AS will cause an added increase in lean mass which will invariably cause more calories to be burned as lean mass is metabolically active, while fat is not...

 

[growinpete]

during a cutting cycle, it's all about keeeping gains while regulating water retension.

 

[jboldman]

Bingo!

jb

thanks for posting those reports bro. im at work right now so i cant read them entirely yet.

correct me if im wrong but excess water is caused with with high carbs and sodium right? on a low carb diet, test should not give much, if any, bloating...?

 

[junk]

Wrongun.. I f I understand correctly from the research made on the heifers it seems that Fina along with Nolvadex (Or Arimidex/Femara) WILL decrease lipogenesis ?

 

[jboldman]

Read all the studies and you will see that fina along with estradiol benzoate led to increases in total bodyweight, decreases in adiposity. They do not add EB to the mix to create fat cows, it is to increase the feed efficicency and muscle accretion. It does lead to an increase in intramuscular lipid content(bigger muscles) however.

jb

Wrongun.. I f I understand correctly from the research made on the heifers it seems that Fina along with Nolvadex (Or Arimidex/Femara) WILL decrease lipogenesis ?

 

[DepressiveJuice]

Read all the studies and you will see that fina along with estradiol benzoate led to increases in total bodyweight, decreases in adiposity. They do not add EB to the mix to create fat cows, it is to increase the feed efficicency and muscle accretion. It does lead to an increase in intramuscular lipid content(bigger muscles) however.

jb

hmm. anyone have links to these studies?

 

[kwik95gt]

simple-because mild anabolics used while trying to lose fat will help prevent muscle/strenth loss, and at the same time they are less likely to cause you heart problems down the road-from doing cardio and using ephedra based products. problems like cardiomyopathy.

 

[BrothaBill]

simple-because mild anabolics used while trying to lose fat will help prevent muscle/strenth loss, and at the same time they are less likely to cause you heart problems down the road-from doing cardio and using ephedra based products. problems like cardiomyopathy.

Not that simple, but I despise ephedrin b.c I see pts with problems from it, although it does give good buzz when you havent taken it for a while. Cardiomyopathy (disease of the cardiac muscle) is related to several different factors lot of which cant be controlled. Several forms thick,thin, obstructive, etc... The one that can be controlled is alcoholic cm. I think ephedrine is more likey to result in 1) heat stroke (due to vasoconstriction) b/c the body is unable to cool itself. 2) abnormal heart rhythms that can kill or cause damage to the heart . We all like to think that heart formed correctly, but there is alot of variability out there that can be triggered by stimulants, the majority should be fine, but you never know if youre that unlucky bastard with a reentry loop in their hearts wiring.