Ideas for 1st cycle....?????

[Mr.Nickels55]

Hey all......i am thinking about doin my first cycle.....im 20yo 6' 230lbs 16-17bf and ive been training for 4 yrs......i wana spend about 5 bills on gear. i am lookin to slim down about 10-15lbs and then gain it back as muscle.......please give me a layout of what i would be best off taking and what my cycle layout would look like.......thnks apprciate it.

 

[zk7]

Dude, maybe you should just start with Test E 500mg/week? With 12.5mg Aromasin ED.

 

[daveyboy2345]

go ahead and lose about 10-15 lbs naturally then do

test 400 mgs 1-10
winstrol 8-12, 50 mgs day
nolvadex 10mgs day throughout, 20 mgs day pct

you will gain and stay lean

 

[AhMadKooL]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=441371

It even has a sample cycle in there

 

[xrsist]

go ahead and lose about 10-15 lbs naturally then do

test 400 mgs 1-10
winstrol 8-12, 50 mgs day
nolvadex 10mgs day throughout, 20 mgs day pct

you will gain and stay lean

no clomid bro?

 

[slat1]

I would drop the fat by adjusting your diet.
You want to make sure you know exactly how your body works with different types of food before you hit AAS.
Once you know that you will be able to maximize your returns.
BTW. You can slap on 20lbs of muscle with ten weeks of test at 250mgs a week no problem.
Make sure you have your pct products on hand before you start.

 

[BigCracker]

I would drop the fat by adjusting your diet.
You want to make sure you know exactly how your body works with different types of food before you hit AAS.
Once you know that you will be able to maximize your returns.
BTW. You can slap on 20lbs of muscle with ten weeks of test at 250mgs a week no problem.
Make sure you have your pct products on hand before you start.

Ut-Oh!!! Another advocate of low mg cycles like myself(especially 1st runs). You're definitely going against the grain here by not proposing 500 mgs/1000mgs wk!!!!

I'm always telling peeps how I grew like a weed for yrs on 200-400 mgs a wk. I think I need to retract that statement. I actually used a lot of vet grade Mexican products-which were often underdosed-so with that being said-I made gains on probably LESS THAN 200-400 mgs/wk for years.

These days most guys think anything less than 500 mgs/wk is considered PCT or "off"

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ut-Oh!!! Another advocate of low mg cycles like myself(especially 1st runs). You're definitely going against the grain here by not proposing 500 mgs/1000mgs wk!!!!

I'm always telling peeps how I grew like a weed for yrs on 200-400 mgs a wk. I think I need to retract that statement. I actually used a lot of vet grade Mexican products-which were often underdosed-so with that being said-I made gains on probably LESS THAN 200-400 mgs/wk for years.

These days most guys think anything less than 500 mgs/wk is considered PCT or "off"

True.

 

[lil-swole]

Ut-Oh!!! Another advocate of low mg cycles like myself(especially 1st runs). You're definitely going against the grain here by not proposing 500 mgs/1000mgs wk!!!!

I'm always telling peeps how I grew like a weed for yrs on 200-400 mgs a wk. I think I need to retract that statement. I actually used a lot of vet grade Mexican products-which were often underdosed-so with that being said-I made gains on probably LESS THAN 200-400 mgs/wk for years.

These days most guys think anything less than 500 mgs/wk is considered PCT or "off"

Hearing this kind of shit makes me want to go with 375mg/wk for my fist cycle instead of 500mg/wk.

 

[Mac173]

I wish I had 5g's to spend on gear.
20 is awfully young, 21-23 would be better.
But if you're going to do it then I would suggest 250 since you're younger.
I wouldn't waste my first cycle on a cutter.
Either bulk or wait until you drop your bf and then start the cycle and bulk.