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Phaded
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god is the man..
redsamurai
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did jesus finally appear to you and say "nucka!!!!!! yu's got to chill with dem coke ho's son!!.......peace"
was it something like that? Or did you just feel a slap on the back of the head and when you turned around noone was there?
was it something like that? Or did you just feel a slap on the back of the head and when you turned around noone was there?
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Phaded
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redsamurai said:
dude i can tell you are searching for something.. its blatantly obvious .. seek God he'll show you he exists..
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Phaded
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Smurfy said:
i was doing really well alot better than i had been in years.. anyhow i started back sliding and he gave me some ill knowledge today in the scriptures i read..
redsamurai
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Phaded said:
I was having some fun with you bor..............and yeah, I'm searching, I'll always be searching......that's how life is supposed to be. No one or no thing has all the answers..........but when I come across someone or something that purports to have all the answers, I look elsewhere cause I'm obviously not looking in the right place.
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Phaded
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redsamurai said:I was having some fun with you bor..............and yeah, I'm searching, I'll always be searching......that's how life is supposed to be. No one or no thing has all the answers..........but when I come across someone or something that purports to have all the answers, I look elsewhere cause I'm obviously not looking in the right place.
you've hardened your heart towards the Lord why not give em a chance.. not all Christians are like the ones you hate..
redsamurai
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Phaded said:
Hardened my heart? I'm more open to things than any christian I have ever met in my entire life..............I've only hardened my heart to the way christians look at things because of the moral and ethical compromises I see them make on a daily basis. That stuff just isn't for me..........and "IMO"............god agrees. But that's just me
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Phaded
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jh1 said:
falling back into my old ways.. trying to change here
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Phaded
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redsamurai said:
you're talking about like mormons i think.
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Phaded
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Mr. dB said:Better bring me a bucket.
take your negativity out of this thread you sheep.
chewyxrage
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Mr. dB said:
That's the first thing I thought off....
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Kano
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i need some prayers here my life is fucked lately thanks .. we all belive in something
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Phaded
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ill say a little prayer for you right now
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Kano
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You must spread some Karma around before giving it to Phaded again.
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Phaded
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why is it that always a bunch of non believers post in threads about God?
gator_mclusky
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Ive been praying all night. Ive got some important things that need to be taken care of today and I definately need Gods help.
Any prayers sent this way will be appreciated.
Thanks and yea....God can work wonders.
Gator
Any prayers sent this way will be appreciated.
Thanks and yea....God can work wonders.
Gator
txbondsman
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Phaded said:
in the short period that I have been reading your related threads and posts, you seem to find him when you need to have your ass pulled out of hot water, that's when it's easy, the hard part is to keep your ass from needing to be pullled from the fire at all. You have to keep doing the right things that you know are the proper things for you to do. There's some truth in what these guys are bustin your balls about. You can't keep puttin yourself into situations and expecting to always have "your higher power, call him what you will" save your ass. He will eventually let your ass fall far enough to show you that he isn't a parachute that you put on when you need him. The landing isn't pretty, I can tell you first hand, after years of "fun" leading to even more years of absolute misery, every minute of every day. When you think that you are at the bottom, guess what, there's a trap door! It gets worse. This is a subject that I kow all too well, I won't make a War and Peace post here, but if you want ot hear my story, I'll be happy to share it with you on here or by phone anytime.
You have many friends here, they all care about you, the anger that some show is from just that, they don't want you to keep living the life you seem to get pulled back into and then one day we never hear from you agan.
On Oct 3rd, eight years ago, at 7:00 in the morning, I had my last 4 fingers of whisky from my coffee cup, it seems like yesterday.
mightymouse69 said:
That's what they say in the church, but it's not that simple... Why don't they say that about people of other religions? They just call them misguided souls... With some people it is because of their ego, but with many it's because it just doesn't make sense to them and it pisses them off that religious people think they are wrong and vice versa... Anyways, most people become religious when they're about to die.
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Phaded
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txbondsman said:
i think its alot to do with who i'm hanging out with.. def working on that.. been reading a proverb everyday.. but i had been backsliding from that ..was going to church and praying daily and had been backsliding from that too..
god def has blessed the hell out of me and i def need to show him more respect with my actions..
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Phaded
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biteme said:
prob. has nothing to do with the big guy.
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Phaded
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big shocker on jguru posting his malarky in here.. you are sooo smart
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Phaded
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i'm not even gonna read your post cause i know its some attack.. you are pathetic and see through.. seek god.
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Phaded
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well good luck with that.
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Phaded
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As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man.
Look, if all things are possible through prayer, answer me one question: Why do little kids die of cancer? You think their parents don't pray hard enough? Or is it just like in the old days, and how God played favorites and He's just failed to tell us who the Canaanites are nowadays?
Spirituality is one thing, but religion is the biggest racket on the planet.
Spirituality is one thing, but religion is the biggest racket on the planet.
jh1
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lol @ JG and Phaded in here.
JG you really are a 'Militant' atheist.
That being said, I've seen way way way way way way more millitant theists... so it's only fair.
Fucking relgiious dipshits screaming at ya from the street corner about the bible and how you're going to hell, etc... fucking nimrods.
JG you really are a 'Militant' atheist.
That being said, I've seen way way way way way way more millitant theists... so it's only fair.
Fucking relgiious dipshits screaming at ya from the street corner about the bible and how you're going to hell, etc... fucking nimrods.
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Phaded
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musclemom said:
God has a bigger plan. ..
Sweetie, I'm sorry to tell you that is the biggest cop-out answer of all time.Phaded said:
Here's the real answer: G-O-D doesn't give a fuck (bearing in mind I do believe in a supreme creative universal force). God no more cares about our petty bullshit than we do about the politics in an ant colony. This place is our problem. We are the masters of our own destiny, and until we learn to tap into the power within ourselves, learn how to harness the divine power that lies within humanity, reach out with our hearts and minds, little kids will continue to die of cancer and serial murderer/torturer/sadists will keep walking the planet.
Humanity needs to man up and take the responsibility and stop expecting some mytholgical daddy to come and fix it. He ain't coming. We're supposed to be the grown ups here. We're supposed to be striving for divinity by working on this mess ourselves.
javaguru said:
Isn't it sad?
When you do something positive you've found GOD - otherwise you've lost JESUS.
How do you ever have ownership of your own actions - good or bad?
It's a flawed way of thinking from the start - I can't imagine that people huddling together weekly and teaching their children this way of thinking.
txbondsman
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Phaded said:
I wanna know why you say that. Before I post my answer to her. Btw,it's 98% relapse, only 2% ever recover.
Phaded, why?
blueta2
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musclemom said:
My niece is 14 and is dying. She's been disabled in a wheelchair her entire life.
My sister has your thoery. She stopped believing in God and stopped praying. She's turned hard and cold. She has nothing left to believe in.
I've also suffered very bad trauma in my life and was diagnosed with a serious illness, and I've questioned "god" many times.
I think our souls need to learn something here. Not sure what, but for every trauma I faced, I gained more knowledge and strength for the next part of my journey.
txbondsman
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IMO, yall hijacked Phaded's thread. He was looking for an answer to a real problem and it's deteriorated to this...
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blueta2 said:
I think that's a part of the problem, people do all this praying for change and good and then curse God when they don't get what they want (or need).
I don't think there is any amount of prayer or faith that will change that there will be good times and there will be times of great despair. If praying gets you through the rough times and praying is how you are thankful for the good times I totally get it - otherwise I don't see placing such responsibility or blame on God.
Actually you're probably right, but from a purely pragmatic point of view, Phaded doesn't want an answer to his problem, not really. In attributing the success of overcoming ANY compulsion to any outside party, you've left yourself a door. No matter what, you can build an excuse for yourself to backslide. There are going to be times when that feeling of being "lost in the wilderness" is going to overwhelm even the most religious people, then what do you do? How many times has the refrain "I turned my back on my Lord and Savior and in a moment of weakness I resorted to ..." been repeatedtxbondsman said:
I'd just like to see people believe in their own divinity a little, that's all *sigh*
blueta2
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velvett said:
I agree, you never see anyone blaming God when they win the lottery. They thank "him"
The good and bad is given as a lesson. Life is a lesson..simple!
When my niece dies, I will be in the most pain of my life. I will prob curse "god", but in time will realize why it had to be.
txbondsman
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Phaded said:
Phaded,
There is a saying in people who are tryng to recover, it's " you have to change three things if you want to have a chance, people, places and things". I had to give up friends (actually socalled friends, my real friends wouldn't hang with me anymore, they did want to facilitate me in my ultimate demise), I couldn't go to places where I knew drugs/ alcohol would like be, and then the "things" that were a trigger. That is the first step at getting yourself ready to do the hard part. Be around yourself. You can't quit being you, it may sound funny, but I'm totally serious. I used to see a poster that said, "the problem is, whereever I go, there I am." Never a more true statement has been written.
About your praying, words w/o action is nothing. If you were hungary but were broke, you may pray for something to eat, but don't expect God to drop a hamburger on your head, but do expect him to provide you with a way to eat, whether it's by someone asking you if your hungary or giving you an opportunity to work for a meal, you have to have actions to go with your prayer, you just can't sit there. If you pray that you want someting different, DO something different...
txbondsman
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Phaded said:
you never answer me as to why you said this, but I'm going to answwr you anyway.
Alcoholism/ addiction is not just a physical problem, it's a spritual problem as well. it frustrates preachers to no end as to why they cannot help more alcoholics/addicts and the same goes for DR's. Neither will achieve much success on their own, but working together, they have a good chance to make a sick preson well. Alcoholism is a disease, the medical profession has it listed with all the others that we know. Why? It has the necessary criteria to be classified as such. It's progressive, will get worse if left untreated, it will eventually kill you and it's incurable. Dr's would like to think that they have enough pills at their disposal to make alcoholics better, they don't. Preachers would like to say that if you believe in God and their way that they can cure you, they won't.
It does however take somethign from both worlds to arrest the disease. For most, it takes a what we call "spititual awakening" and from that "a moment of clarity" to get an alcoholic/addict to want to stop committing suicide slowly. With out that, it's very hard to move forward.
* I have written this twice now and erased it. It is very personal, but I want you to hear it and anyone else who maybe experiencing some of the same trouble, I can guarantee you that there is, but they don't want to be known, that's OK, it's for you too. *
It is the way I first knew that I wasn't alone in the fight, quite empowering. As I lay on my livingroom floor, I was sick, very sick, I had looked all over the house for drugs that I knew must be there, that was probably the ninth time through the couch, over the carpet, on top of the TV, I was just gong crazy, litterally. I had drank every drop of alcohol in the house. I was pucking my guts up, curled up in a fetal position laying on the floor. For some reason, a thought came to me, a friend had told me that if I said the three majic words, I could quit suffering if I wanted. I remember saying them, "God help me." Just as if you through water on a match and it went out, I stopped suffering, in just that instant. I knew from that moment on, if asked, God can and will help. Miracle? well, it was to me.
So to answer your statement, yes, the "big Guy" as you put it, was my chance to get myself out of my self built prison. He had everything to do with it.....
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all the whey
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velvett said:
I agree.
I pray that you won't red me when I joke about you.
That proves there is no God!!!!!!!!!!!E$@
redsamurai
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Phaded said:
and from what I know of java, granted this is the internet, he seems to have a good heart and just all around good guy. Imagine that!......an atheist being a good bor? no way
redsamurai
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that's a good post.........I will never begrudge anyone who's had this kind of experience they're right to affirm whatever they want. "However".........like I've been railing in all my posts.........what happened to you was something completely internal, between you and whatever power exists. It's not for you to proselytize to others that if they follow what you did, all will be well............that's how we fucked up this whole religion thing. We doctrinated it...........gave people a blueprint to follow. Than we even went so far as to parameterize god in human terms..........this is HERECY. The bible, koran, talmud..........filled with abject HERECY!! I know people are rolling their eyes..........but humans simply cannot fathom the force that generated this realm.........it's simply inconceivable and we're fucking retarded for even trying. But that's not to say that those books don't have redeeming qualities, they do............but they are tainted from front to back with what I consider to be very calculated wording that seeks to control our spirituality............which was always meant to be a personal journey, to each their own and we're not to fuck with each other over what we think god is. There are people who profess to have something click in their lives because they meditated next to a very old tree..............so what? Are they wrong? If someone can truly claim some real help overcoming a problem in their lives from whatever...........that's their business. But you cross god.........and mark these words, you cross god in a big mother fuckin way when you profess your path through this life is superior or greater to someone elses' AND following those other paths leads you to some form of damnation. I don't think anyone's done that here, but I know of those that do.............and I swear on my being they're going to catch it good when they cross over.
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digimon7068
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i think ur bullshitting. . .but i like you anyway
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Phaded
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txbondsman said:
i was being sarcastic.
biteme said:
Huh? We understand our birth and existence well enough. We are born because a human sperm fertillized a human egg, causing a pre-programmed chain of events to occur that culminates in a woman giving birth to a human baby.
As for existence, we exist to exploit our environmental niche and to reproduce, just like all other living organisms.
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borris
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I didn't realize how many atheist folks there are on this board
I'm glad I have faith in something
I'm glad I have faith in something
borris said:
I don't think you have to subscribe to an organized religion to have a belief in God or higher being.
Man created religion to control and keep order.
Additionally, I also don't think one needs to believe in God or a higher being to have faith in themselves, science or physics.
It really just depends on your point of view or logic.
needtogetaas
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phaded good for you bro...thats awesome
blueta2
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borris said:
I'm not sure how many traumas or horrible events that have happened to you in your life, but as people are struck by trauma, they tend to question their faith.
Life bitters us over time........well it did for me, but I've had a lot of "bats" to the head in my lifetime
txbondsman
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Phaded said:
phaded,
You take what you need form ny posts and leave the rest, my story isn't yours, but if some of the things sound familiar, put them in your memory bank. I really don't feel comfortable writing all about my "shit" that is my past, but if someone was reading it and they got a little something that could help them, well, it was worth putting out there. It's my experience, that in a group, when someone has a problem like this, there are others who are connected by either themselves, a family member or close friend and they don't want to bring it up. I got sober at a rehab, liked the feeling so well of sobriety, that I went so often that they gave me a class to teach of my own. The other councilers had degrees in chemical dependancy ( LCDC), but I guess they thought that 30 something years of practical experience qualified me to try and help others too. I went twice a week for to years on a volunteer basis, after a change in management, they told me that I could no longer do what i was doing because I had no license. I thought that was pretty funny, who would you think knew more about alcoholics/ addicts? One who was an alcoholic/addict for 20+ years and had been sober for 3, or a guy who had never used drugs/alcohol at all or minimmally, and had all his learning out of a book.
I don't like to dwell on my past, nor do I ever want to forget it either.
One last thing and I'll put this to rest, taped on my window in front of me is a prayer I said everyday for years, I read it now and then even now because it's directly in front of me and just over this screen, it's the 3rd step prayer from the AA big book. Since alcoholics/ addicts are the most selfish people in the world in most cases, it deals with that, selfishness.
It goes like this:
"God I offer myself to Thee- to build with me and to do with me as Thou wilt. Relieve me of the bondage of self, that I may better do Thy will. Take way my difficulties, that victory over them may bear witness to those I would help of Thy Power, Thy Love, and Thy Way of Life. May I do Thy will always.
I started my days with that for years, it helped me tremendously.
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