I want to be back on..

[52_21_30]

Love that cycle. I also admire your discipline for coming off, lol. I have no such willpower.

 

[jmead]

honestly i doubt im gonna wait another 2 months.. its fuckin hard lookin at a box of gear and all these new high dose EO goodies.. UGH.. FUCK IT WHERES MY SYRINGE

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

honestly i doubt im gonna wait another 2 months.. its fuckin hard lookin at a box of gear and all these new high dose EO goodies.. UGH.. FUCK IT WHERES MY SYRINGE

yeah bro...i know that feeling!

 

[genman]

its about that time again.. gonna give it another 2 months following good bloodwork.. this is whats planned and i have been stockin up for..

wk1-4 dbol 50mg ED
wk 1-10 Test E 800mg EW
wk 1-10 Deca 400mg EW
wk 1-18 Eq 800mg EW
wk 11-18 tren a 75mg ED
wk 11-18 prop 100mg ED (test prop tren mix from PF)
wk 13-18 winny 100mg ED (tabs)
wk 10-18 T3 50mcg ED

wk 18-19 HCG 500iu EOD
wk 20-24(as needed) clomid 50mg ED
wk 20-24 Dermacrine 4-5 pumps ED

Awesome cycle. I would run the HCG again about half way through. 18 weeks is a long time. My boys would run and hide if I didn't do that.

 

[52_21_30]

honestly i doubt im gonna wait another 2 months.. its fuckin hard lookin at a box of gear and all these new high dose EO goodies.. UGH.. FUCK IT WHERES MY SYRINGE

I hate to be a bad influence, but seriously bro, why wait for a good blood work result? You're just gonna hop on a 4.5 month cycle and destroy your lipids and LFT's anyway?? Honestly just monitor your BP, stay hydrated, and eat clean. Also take a good liver support supp. This is paramount. GO easy on the orals and use Tyler's religiously. The only real bad shit I've seen personally in YOUNG BBer's is liver complications. At our age (I assume mid 20's), unless you're planning on having kids, if you can follow the above regimen, why come off at all? Of course if you experience acne, BPH, sexual dysfunction etc that's a reason to come off. But personally I'm shooting for nationals and maybe some day in the distant future a shot at a pro card. Plus philosophically I would rather kick it at 50 looking and feeling like a million bucks than at 75 shitting myself not knowing who I am. That's very extreme and cynical I realize, but that's just how I roll.

 

[tshoot]

What did your last cycles look like and what gain did you make - if you don't mind me asking?

 

[jmead]

I hate to be a bad influence, but seriously bro, why wait for a good blood work result? You're just gonna hop on a 4.5 month cycle and destroy your lipids and LFT's anyway?? Honestly just monitor your BP, stay hydrated, and eat clean. Also take a good liver support supp. This is paramount. GO easy on the orals and use Tyler's religiously. The only real bad shit I've seen personally in YOUNG BBer's is liver complications. At our age (I assume mid 20's), unless you're planning on having kids, if you can follow the above regimen, why come off at all? Of course if you experience acne, BPH, sexual dysfunction etc that's a reason to come off. But personally I'm shooting for nationals and maybe some day in the distant future a shot at a pro card. Plus philosophically I would rather kick it at 50 looking and feeling like a million bucks than at 75 shitting myself not knowing who I am. That's very extreme and cynical I realize, but that's just how I roll.

i agree in many aspects, id rather die at 50, swoled up living a fun life.. i dont want to wear adult diapers and have someone bathe me.. ugh

the only real reason im coming off it to clear my receptors.. my gains stalled around 19 weeks so i got off..

basically your just saying to run low dose test between cycles.. then jump back on that cycle i have planned.. then keep the test going.. basically HRT..

but what happens when i do decide i want to come off.. wont my natty test levels be lowered from being ON so long? why would anyone come off at our age if there wasnt any issues surrounding it..

 

[52_21_30]

The "issues" are exaggerated and are largely related to fertility. If you really want to come off and get your woman pregnant, you can easily do ith with clomid and HCG for a few months (if you even need it). Most guys come off because they are not as serious about the sport as far as competing. It's a sad fact but you can't spend more than 25% of the year off and expect to compete with the big boys. It's just the nature of the sport. But for the remaining 99.9% of people who use AAS, coming off is and should be necessary. Most guys use AAS for cosmetic reasons, others for sports, and the vast minority is for competitive bodybuilding. Sp basically, if you're not competing on a decently high level, then there's no reason to be on all the time.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

I hate to be a bad influence, but seriously bro, why wait for a good blood work result? You're just gonna hop on a 4.5 month cycle and destroy your lipids and LFT's anyway?? Honestly just monitor your BP, stay hydrated, and eat clean. Also take a good liver support supp. This is paramount. GO easy on the orals and use Tyler's religiously. The only real bad shit I've seen personally in YOUNG BBer's is liver complications. At our age (I assume mid 20's), unless you're planning on having kids, if you can follow the above regimen, why come off at all? Of course if you experience acne, BPH, sexual dysfunction etc that's a reason to come off. But personally I'm shooting for nationals and maybe some day in the distant future a shot at a pro card. Plus philosophically I would rather kick it at 50 looking and feeling like a million bucks than at 75 shitting myself not knowing who I am. That's very extreme and cynical I realize, but that's just how I roll.

I agree. why wait for labs. Are the results really gunna change your mind? What would you do differently if the labs were off? You would add something like tylers. why not just take the tylers now with it all. Your gunna fuck your shit up on this long cycle anyways. And wehn I say fuck them up I mean your cholesterol is going to go up and your LFTs will be elevated. Like with almost all of our/your cycles.

 

[youngguns]

Wow, what does it feel like to be on all of that?