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i think i finally got it down

benchboy55

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i think this will be the finalization of my up comming cycle


1000 mg omna/ week
50 mg d-bol ed
liquidex.5 mg eod
clomid post cycle

i'm hope'n for some good gains on this one... ym first cycle:) i'm 5'11 and 245 at the present:garza: your opinons would be greatly appreciated
 
genarr3 said:
Running a gram of test with 50mgs of DBol for your first cycle is a very bad idea.

I agree. Because you probably do not need that much first time out. Like half that much would work great and you would have another cycle lined up!
 
benchboy55 said:
i think this will be the finalization of my up comming cycle


1000 mg omna/ week
50 mg d-bol ed
liquidex.5 mg eod
clomid post cycle

i'm hope'n for some good gains on this one... ym first cycle:) i'm 5'11 and 245 at the present:garza: your opinons would be greatly appreciated


Lower your doses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jesus Christ I hate seeing such high doses when they are not needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Moderation!!!!!!!!!!
 
I agree with genarr3 and Quadsweep "The Voice of Reason"

Dude that is a lot of gear ....even at your size, for a first cycle. You will be pissing money away bro cause you don't need that much for good gains. Not only that but you are entering the bad sides range with that much, at least for the average guy.

You don't need the d-bol at all bro really.
If you want to get your blood levels up in a hurry and get the most out of 8 weeks why not try test prop at 500mg per week injecting every three days. It's no biggy bro, and you can use a 27 gauge pin if you like, and that is like nothing at all.....it just injects vey slowly ...and that is good too.

Another choice would be to front load a longer acting ester like cyp at about 600mg on day one, and then proceed with biweekly injections of 250 starting on day 4. The biweekly injections will result in more even blood levels and this will be better for gains and reduce the chance of sides.
I think you will be happy with 500 of test.
:)
If you insist on the d-bol then just do 30 per day in at least four divided doses along with test at 500. Run the d-bol for 4 weeks and then stop as it is fairly hard on the liver as you probably know.
I am a big fan of using Nolva 20mg per day right from the get go as it acts as an estrogen in the Liver and really does help to keep total cholesterol down and HDL up

Do moderate doses bro unless you have been doing gear a while and are a top competitor:)
 
wk 1-8: 500mg/wk Testosterone Enanthate/Cyp
wk 1-4: D-bol 35mg/day.
wk 1-5: Liquidex .5mg ed
wk 5-10: Liquidex .25mg ed
wk 12: start clomid.



Trust me. This is MORE then enough for a (ambitious) beginner.
If you run a gram of testosterone, you had better be running .5 mg/ED liquidex from two days before your first inject up to two weeks after your last. Nolva on hand for a freak occurence of some aromatise enzymes surviving the liquidex. Need to stop up those receptors with novla in that case.
 
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