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I saw Alien vs Predator

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Laugh if you want. I was right. It sucked ass. And here is why...

The humans were needless in the movie. The movie could have gone another direction on why/how the hunt began.

A flaw with the predator was when the human fell down the shaft after running from them above, he was covered with snow, thus concealing his body heat. Like Arnold used mud. So how could the predator see him to kill him?

A flaw with the Alien was once the face hugger attached and left the embryo in you... it usually took a day (first movie) to a few hours (second movie) before the alien emerged. Now it was like... umm... five minutes.

The first two predators were killed right off the bat. Shit, those aliens whooped that ass.

Not enough alien vs predator scenes... I mean... that is what I paid for.

The lady using the alien head as a shield was weak. How the hell they wash that thing out?

Predictable scenes. The aliens constant close up of their snarling mouth, the second set of teeth coming out.... the predator taking off his helmet and roaring, etc...

shit. I hate it when I am right.
 
i thought it was pretty good, but like you said, the movie was only 1.5 long, shit happend to fast, they killed off like 10 humans in 5 minutes, and 2 predators back to back withen like 10 minutes of them being there. i thought it was descent, would have been a shit loead better if it had another 30 minutes of just aliens and predators fighting
 
AAP said:
Laugh if you want. I was right. It sucked ass. And here is why...

The humans were needless in the movie. The movie could have gone another direction on why/how the hunt began.
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I agree, they really where useless. They should of at least had a lot less time setting up the human's backgrounds.

AAP said:
A flaw with the predator was when the human fell down the shaft after running from them above, he was covered with snow, thus concealing his body heat. Like Arnold used mud. So how could the predator see him to kill him?
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1) Predator's can switch vision modes. They do this in other parts of this move, predator 2 and in the games so even if they can't see him in inferred they can still use other forms of detection.

2) In the artic there would still be a big heat difference even after that fall. Arnold was in a tropical jungle so everything around him was still pretty warm.

AAP said:
A flaw with the Alien was once the face hugger attached and left the embryo in you... it usually took a day (first movie) to a few hours (second movie) before the alien emerged. Now it was like... umm... five minutes.
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This was a big inconsistency. These bother me too.

AAP said:
The first two predators were killed right off the bat. Shit, those aliens whooped that ass.
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This is what pissed me off the most. Aliens are supposed to be strong but not anywhere near as tough as predators. It should have taken a small swarm of aliens to take one predator, and that's if he is just using his hand to hand weapons.

AAP said:
Not enough alien vs predator scenes... I mean... that is what I paid for.

The lady using the alien head as a shield was weak. How the hell they wash that thing out?

Predictable scenes. The aliens constant close up of their snarling mouth, the second set of teeth coming out.... the predator taking off his helmet and roaring, etc...

shit. I hate it when I am right.
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I agree, this movie was an overall disappointment, and having the last predator die just as the queen was way too predictable.
 
Quick thread high-jack:


Does anyone else think of our presidential election everytime they see the "who ever wins, we lose" slogan?
 
It was fun but also dumb. And yea 3 predators shoulda been able to take out a good couple hundred aliens, then again the one was whooping their asses once he got his shoulder cannon equipped. For the huge one to be taken out by ONE lousy alien, actually they bother were taken out by ONE lousy alien was RETARDED AS HELL. The chick was hot though
 
actually, if the humans didnt fuck everything up for the predators, the predators would have had their shoulkder cannons and kicked the fuck out of the aliens, but that's besides the point, i wanted to see more fight scenes
 
the fight scenes in gladiator were more awestriking and breathless and suspenseful then this movie.

the "best" fight scene lasted maybe 5 minutes. the rest was just running and other stupid shit.

there was no "cling to your seat" type suspense and action. the predators looked huge on screen and they should've definately emphasized this in the movie, and utilized it as much as they could in the movie - but they didn't.

it was entertaining. but nothing mind-blowing. i know if a movie is 'awesome' if i walk away wanting to buy the DVD. Not so in this case.
 
vansmack2000 said:
the whole movie should have revolved around the ancient times when they thought they were gods, screw the modern day stuff
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Fuck yeah. I forgot why the predators left in the first place.


Anyway... the concept was good. A lost pyramid city beneath the anartica. Now if you had to include humans in it, it would have made a gripping movie if you DIDNT use predator or alien. Perhaps an Indiana Jones type of movie. Or a movie similiar to Identity where a killer stalked among them, picking them off one by one.

Or

The movie could have been about the alien queen crashlanding (accident or miscalculation caused the ship to hit the frozen lands) thousands of years ago. And only recently, due to global warming :) she was slowly rethawing and laying eggs...the predators pick up on the signal she gives off and recognize her as an old enemy that they battled million of years ago when a young predator unwittingly brought an egg back on their ship (ala the original alien) and it mutated and hatched more inside the crew and when the ship crashed, it was the predators fending off a genocide of their race by the aliens.


Or

Hell just have the Predators to be nothing more than a mutated alien itself. Aliens retain traits of their hosts. It could have been an Aztec warrior that was impregnanted with the embryo and given an antidote from the shamans, it didn't work in time so the "alien" came out as an original predator. I mean, they have the same 2 arms 2 legs, head, torso of humans and then they have the fucked up mouth and strength and talons of the aliens.
 
yeah i thought that part was fucking awesome as well, when the predator was on top of the pyrimid and it showed the ships in the back ground. i dont know, i thought the movie would have been 100 times better if it was just 20-30 min longer of just fighting between the aliens and predators, just wasnt enough

vansmack2000 said:
the whole movie should have revolved around the ancient times when they thought they were gods, screw the modern day stuff
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you thought it sucked as a movie? it wasnt entertianing at all? if there wansnt any alien or predator movies in the past and this movie just came out i would have thought it was bad ass, i just thought it could have been a shit load better being "ALIEN VS PREDATOR"

AAP said:
it sucked. just like I predicted.
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just to clear a few things up for you, theres a couple Aliens vs Pred books out. This movie was a loose rendition of the first book: Prey. The book takes place many years in the future on a different planet, but the same ideas are there. Even in the book, the Preds are impressed with one of the human females and take her in as one them. More importantly, the book opens a curtain on the Preds a little bit, and about their civilization. As the movie kind of touched on, predators are a warrior race who's lives revovle around hunting. In the book, they drop alien eggs on the planet and fight the hatchlings, so it was kind of cool how in the movie they had their own living baby factory. But basically they fight shit to proove they're worthy to the elder preds.

it was still stupid though, a pred should be able to take out 1-2 aliens with its bare hands, but the shoulder cannnon is majorly badass
 
Basically the predators hunted the aliens for "street cred" reps.
 
Tiervexx said:
Quick thread high-jack:


Does anyone else think of our presidential election everytime they see the "who ever wins, we lose" slogan?
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hehehe we were talking about that not to long ago. :)
 
Austin316 said:
It was fun but also dumb. And yea 3 predators shoulda been able to take out a good couple hundred aliens, then again the one was whooping their asses once he got his shoulder cannon equipped. For the huge one to be taken out by ONE lousy alien, actually they bother were taken out by ONE lousy alien was RETARDED AS HELL. The chick was hot though
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the predators were very dependant on their weapons that the humans had taken.. If you remember in the first few movies they were used more than anything else.
 
Razorguns said:
the fight scenes in gladiator were more awestriking and breathless and suspenseful then this movie.

the "best" fight scene lasted maybe 5 minutes. the rest was just running and other stupid shit.

there was no "cling to your seat" type suspense and action. the predators looked huge on screen and they should've definately emphasized this in the movie, and utilized it as much as they could in the movie - but they didn't.

it was entertaining. but nothing mind-blowing. i know if a movie is 'awesome' if i walk away wanting to buy the DVD. Not so in this case.
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the predator compared to a human is freakin HUGE but to an alien is a different story. I do have to admit though seeing them battle was awesome though..
 
haha i didnt know that all my posts were gonna be like that sorry.. The only thing about it was that I heard that its suppose to be a a hundred and something years in the future but its not.. if you remember he changed the dial to some date 2004? Also I like the idea of her joining up with him.. the preditors didnt see like they hated anyone they just liked to hunt. Thats why they usually only killed those with weapons and she proved herself worthy. Although I was a little comfused with this Bishop Wayland. In the 3rd aliens that guy said he was the maker of the andriods .. so .. if thats true how could there be a bishop wayland that dies in this movie? I mean sons look similar but exactly identical? I know its a movie so a few things I dont mind but that??
 
The dude leading this expedition was the same Android in the second movie. Maybe since this movie was set in current time, the second Alien was set in the future... they cloned the guy.
 
sigweed said:
it was still stupid though, a pred should be able to take out 1-2 aliens with its bare hands, but the shoulder cannnon is majorly badass
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Exactly. I was so pissed when I saw that first predator killed by just one alien.

But in a way it does make sense, because those where just kids trying to prove themselves. One of the elder preds would have slaughtered the whole hive.
 
AAP said:
The dude leading this expedition was the same Android in the second movie. Maybe since this movie was set in current time, the second Alien was set in the future... they cloned the guy.
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In Aliens 3 that guy is a high ranking member of the company, or at least an important inventor. He was the one that created the androids that looked like him.

Because of the massive explotion that destroyed the pyramid it would make more sense for the other guy to be his son or grandson, and for his company to be "the company" in the later movies.
 
exactly, when then 2nd predator got killed i said " WTF?!?!" loud as hell in the theater, like everyone around me looked at me, then i heard like 3 other people saying stuff like " bullshit" and "that is fucking gay"

n0th1ng said:
1 alien taking out 2 predators was fucking weak.
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can ya'll chip in and help refund my money? I forgot to steal something from the theater this time.
 
Just watched it. Not that great. How could 1 alien kill 2 predators? Oh well, AvP2 might be better.
 
From Zero said:
Probably would have made this piece of crap a billion times more interesting.

Hell, I'd settle for regular earwigs.
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I'm going to see that shark flick on Friday. What's it called...Open Waters?

I hear it makes Jaws look like a Veggie Tales video.
 
big_bad_buff said:
exactly, when then 2nd predator got killed i said " WTF?!?!" loud as hell in the theater, like everyone around me looked at me, then i heard like 3 other people saying stuff like " bullshit" and "that is fucking gay"
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Do you say "LOL" to people also..
 
well, you do bring up old threads coldbleu. i got shat on at another forum for standing up for people who bring up old threads. at least your comment wasnt......

"LOL"
 
ok i saw this a little while ago, and i agree, it was shit...although i predicted it as well. my issues were:

1) why they need a pyramid to justify the storyline? right off the bat that totally killed the immersibility of the film. i wanted to see aliens and predators clash, not be confronted with the idea that my ancestors were slaves to the predators etc etc...what a load of bullshit. something about the alien and predator films is that they are all so believable (particularly the alien franchise), but THIS....please. total bullshit

the idiot producers spent millions on props/sets anyway, so they could have done whatever they liked- did they have to set the film in 20th century earth? why not in the future, or in space. hell if they ahd to have it in 20th century earth why not inside a huge predator ship that was infested with aliens en route to earth for yet another hunting trip, crashlanding on earth, and then take it from there?

2) i hate having everything explained to me. archaeologists are not godlike, and i cannot accept that those idiots could read hieroglyphs in this supposed bullshit pyramid well enough to understand wtf was going on. stargate, anyone? the whole movie smacked of jurassic park 3...which sucked severely.

i could type more but the whole thing pissed me off. they tried to mash together every cliche from both franchises, and ended up with a steaming pile of crap. they should ahve kept it simple, focused on good characters, well crafted action (NOT the bullshit we were fed) and made a decent film. look at the first alien film- hardly any action, excellent characters, good dialogue, no bullshit jurassic parky explanations...great film. AvP was stomach turning imo.
 
Well I agree to a certain point. I’m a big predator fan though, so I thought it was a little better than you though, mostly because I know the story line. They did a great job actually. But I was disappointed that

(1) the movie was so short
(2) they cut 25 min of action out of the film, it originally showed everyone dying and more fighting which will be in the rated R directors cut
(3) they should have showed more about when the aliens ruled earth and built the pyramids ect
 
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