i personally think we should all stop recommending...

[decem]

testosterone at 500mg a week for first and second cyclers..

i didn't get that great of results at 500mg.. not at all.. but as soon as i up it to 750mg a week.. i could tell i grew every morning that i woke up..

anyone else agree or disagree?

anyone else see as big of a difference as i did between 500mg and 750mg?

anyone else think that 500mg was pretty much a waste of money and that they could have spent just a little more dough and had kick ass results?

 

[Slopain]

testosterone at 500mg a week for first and second cyclers..

i didn't get that great of results at 500mg.. not at all.. but as soon as i up it to 750mg a week.. i could tell i grew every morning that i woke up..

anyone else agree or disagree?

anyone else see as big of a difference as i did between 500mg and 750mg?

anyone else think that 500mg was pretty much a waste of money and that they could have spent just a little more dough and had kick ass results?

I actually had a very similiar experience I chaulked it up to the 500mg of test not being my first cycle though, I think 500mg of test stacked should be enough for newbies to feel that test kick for sure - but can't be 100% certain b/c I hit it up after my 1st cycle and it wasnt until the next cycle at 750 to 1000 that I really had that crazy test experience.

 

[Strong_Man20]

No,

I think 500mg a week should be the max for a first cycle. I did 500mg for 4 weeks and I grew like crazy also strengh went up allot. I would have probally made outstanding gains if I stayed on for 10 weeks.

Most of the people that I know do gear, dont do half the amount I see do on this board....and they get brilliant results.
Right now im on a winny only cycle and my guns are up almost an inch in 4 weeks and strengh is through the roof

250-500mgs a week is fine for a first, second and third cycle!!

 

[Golfer18--old]

BUMP

for more info by 500mg users.

 

[droid]

I do not agree. I started cycling in 1991 and the normal practice was to taper up and taper down as I'm sure you well know. My first and 7 or so subsequent cycles were deca and test. The cycles were like this, first week 100mg cyp increasing a 100mg a week until I hit 600mg for two weeks and then tapered down in the same fashion. The deca was ran similar but never exceeded 400 mg. I started in 91' at 165 lbs. I cycled this way until 95' at which time I was 240lbs. I gained 75 lbs running these low doses. So I say start low and see how your body reacts.

 

[bigpimp]

my first cycle was 250mg a week of sos...i put on 25 pounds

i have tried 750mg a week of the same and the results were not any better
just wasted money and more sides

right now i am in the 3rd week of 1 cc a week of omna
and already am up 15lbs
so IMO more is not better

 

[Strong_Man20]

I do not agree. I started cycling in 1991 and the normal practice was to taper up and taper down as I'm sure you well know. My first and 7 or so subsequent cycles were deca and test. The cycles were like this, first week 100mg cyp increasing a 100mg a week until I hit 600mg for two weeks and then tapered down in the same fashion. The deca was ran similar but never exceeded 400 mg. I started in 91' at 165 lbs. I cycled this way until 95' at which time I was 240lbs. I gained 75 lbs running these low doses. So I say start low and see how your body reacts.

you cycled for 4 years straight?? did your test levels go back to normal after you came off?? and can u still get kids??

 

[ultragainz]

i say that everyone is different so 500mgs could be good for most people

 

[decem]

DAMN!!! i can't believe there are that many in disagreement...

i mean i know "to each his own" and "depends on the person".. but i guess i was figurin that this might be one rule of thumb whatever you wanna call it.. that most experienced..

the last time i took test.. i got good results.. at 500mg a week.. but as soon as i threw in two extra amps of sten a week.. holy shit.. and the same goes for this time..

but we have only heard from a few bros.. i know i've read on here, a few times, that the bros were seeing the same, big difference between 500 and 750mg..

 

[droid]

you cycled for 4 years straight?? did your test levels go back to normal after you came off?? and can u still get kids??

That is four years two cycles or so a year. No I adhear to time on = time off.