sorry dude you attacked me first by telling me I made no sense. Yes, I totally agree with you on expereince, read my earlier post mid way through the thread. However, Just wanted ideas from other bros that's all. Just because YOUR traps don't develop that quickly doesn't mean someone else's wont. That someone else is me. You said I made no sense. That is why I responded the way I did. I have to lie on my stomach to do lateral raises because if I do them standing up, the next day my traps are soar, not my delts. LIke you said, expereince and fixing the workout routine to how you see fit. Fuck my Exercise Physiology that's fine but don't say Shoulder press won't trigger a trap response, especially with your 120 lbs lifts...Now that your traps aren't that big due to genetics that's a whole different ball game. Thats cool dude, you gave your 2 cents I gave mine