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I need bigger tri's

the_alcatraz said:
lol...what you get from experience you can't get from books. I've read a lot of shit too. Just cause I dnt have a degree doesnt mean I dnt have a clue. Why you attacking me for? All I said was that dumbell presses dnt overwork the traps. Fuck your exercise physiology for all I care. Experience is the best of teachers. Dumbell presses involve the traps to a very small degree. They involve the triceps a LOT more.
sorry dude you attacked me first by telling me I made no sense. Yes, I totally agree with you on expereince, read my earlier post mid way through the thread. However, Just wanted ideas from other bros that's all. Just because YOUR traps don't develop that quickly doesn't mean someone else's wont. That someone else is me. You said I made no sense. That is why I responded the way I did. I have to lie on my stomach to do lateral raises because if I do them standing up, the next day my traps are soar, not my delts. LIke you said, expereince and fixing the workout routine to how you see fit. Fuck my Exercise Physiology that's fine but don't say Shoulder press won't trigger a trap response, especially with your 120 lbs lifts...Now that your traps aren't that big due to genetics that's a whole different ball game. Thats cool dude, you gave your 2 cents I gave mine
 
str8cubano said:
sorry dude you attacked me first by telling me I made no sense. Yes, I totally agree with you on expereince, read my earlier post mid way through the thread. However, Just wanted ideas from other bros that's all. Just because YOUR traps don't develop that quickly doesn't mean someone else's wont. That someone else is me. You said I made no sense. That is why I responded the way I did. I have to lie on my stomach to do lateral raises because if I do them standing up, the next day my traps are soar, not my delts. LIke you said, expereince and fixing the workout routine to how you see fit. Fuck my Exercise Physiology that's fine but don't say Shoulder press won't trigger a trap response, especially with your 120 lbs lifts...Now that your traps aren't that big due to genetics that's a whole different ball game. Thats cool dude, you gave your 2 cents I gave mine

Dude, trust me when I say very few people believe that shoulder dumbell presses work out the traps more than the tris. We can have a poll if you'd like and see which part works most with it.
 
the_alcatraz said:
Dude, trust me when I say very few people believe that shoulder dumbell presses work out the traps more than the tris. We can have a poll if you'd like and see which part works most with it.

Dumbell Shoulder Press: Muscles Targeted: Deltoid, Anterior
Synergists: Deltoid, lateral;Supraspinatus;Tricepts Brachlii;Trapezius Middle;Trapezius Lower;Serratus Anterior, Inferior Digitations;Pectoralis Major, Clavicular

By the way, Trapezius means "traps". Yes, They do workout triceps. Maybe even more so than traps for most. And of course, judging from that picture (if that is you in the avatar) you have no trap development so I can see why you beleive this exercise would not target traps. I never said it did not workout triceps. I would never put myself above anyone else because of my studies, but when someone like you tells me something ignorant and sais my justified response "makes no sense" I have to speak up. Just because you are ignorant on what muslces are triggerd in MY OWN body doesn't mean I should take your advice. Genetics? maybe that plays a role in your traps. Sure shurgs are probably king, but for years all I did was shoulder press/military press and traps grew like Goldberg. Anyways, I simply said I did not want to execute it because I did not want it to trigger traps at all for now. Even so, This exercise (if you want to take a poll, feel free) is a distant one for tricep development. As you can see from all the other posts (judge for yourself) you are the only one that chose this as a tricep workout. I can care less what you belive or don't belive regarding my own body. But don't worry , I trust you. You obviously know more than I do and the rest of some of us here and feel confident to take a poll on this. Feel free. Let your voice be heard. Good luck - str8cubano
 
lol 'why you attacking me for?'
Alcatraz knows your traps better than you. Your WOMAN should be the person who is more in touch with your traps, not someone who wont believe your traps grow faster than your other parts.

NEWS FLASH!!! THIS IS THE FIRST TIME ONE MUSCLE GROUP GREW MORE THAN ANOTHER!!!

*SARCASM*
 
RearNaked said:
Different strokes for different folks fellas. All we can provide is ideas. Mix your shit up and something is bound to work.

Exactly, it is all related to your genetics, and the amount of slow and fast twitch muscle you have.

However, most people have fast twitch biceps and slow twitch triceps.

Fiber Type Intensity (force) Time Utilization Weight Training

Slow Twitch (Type 1A) 58%-69% > 90 secs Light
Fast Twitch (Type 2A) 70%-84% 26-89 secs Moderate
Fast Twitch (Type 2B) 85%-100% 0-25 secs Heavy

My triceps 'popped' out when I was 13 after doing a few wilderness canoeing trips, which was A LOT of time focused on the triceps.

My point is, going heavy on triceps is not always the best thing, they may respond better to high volume training, which is one reason I like dips, and doing thing like sets of 15-20.
 
Tatyana said:
Exactly, it is all related to your genetics, and the amount of slow and fast twitch muscle you have.

However, most people have fast twitch biceps and slow twitch triceps.

Fiber Type Intensity (force) Time Utilization Weight Training

Slow Twitch (Type 1A) 58%-69% > 90 secs Light
Fast Twitch (Type 2A) 70%-84% 26-89 secs Moderate
Fast Twitch (Type 2B) 85%-100% 0-25 secs Heavy

My triceps 'popped' out when I was 13 after doing a few wilderness canoeing trips, which was A LOT of time focused on the triceps.

My point is, going heavy on triceps is not always the best thing, they may respond better to high volume training, which is one reason I like dips, and doing thing like sets of 15-20.
cool. Yea, When I was 11, I had 3lb dumbells and all I did where chest and bi's. One guy told me, "hey", your going to walk around with a big chest and big bi's with no back and no tri's...i was like, whatever....13 years later and he was exactly right. I caught up with everything execpt tris. But I like the idea of what your talking about Tati, I gotta trigger it from all angles regarding fast and slow twitch. I've tried it all, but now I will do the exercises I never emphasized before (dips, close grip). I was on 80 anavar 2 years ago and joints DESTROYED me thus dips and skulls were a no no. But on this cycle (just test) I feel good. No joint pain whatsoever. By the way how long have you been competing?
 
This will be my fourth comp season, I didn't do any last year though.

I was recovering from a full achilles rupture.
 
IDK, when i do dumbbell shoudler presses, i feel it it my traps way more then my tris. Maybe everyone is a little different.
 
Crocodome said:
Man, don't hate me - but the obvious question now is "why are YOU asking anyone else?"
Lol thats funny stuff right there he says he has a masters in physiology but yet does'nt know how to target his tri's! Sounds to me like he was just hatin on alc cause he's reppin 120's and he only maxed at 90's imo..
 
Gordz24 said:
IDK, when i do dumbbell shoudler presses, i feel it it my traps way more then my tris. Maybe everyone is a little different.
i feel it in my traps more than my tris when i press the dumbells together at the top of the movement as opposed to pressing them str8 up where i get more tricep feeling
 
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