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I got into a fight...

tbuz67 said:
Yeah, I knew that people would be asking about the naked choke as an alternative. At the time I just wanted to stop the action, and it all lasted only about 10 seconds all together. But the guy was bleeding from the head, probably not a good idea to wrap your bare arms around the very area of his body that was bleeding. Besides, the cops showed up about 15 secs after I helped him off the ground. We didn't even have time to get our stories straight. Fortunately, the told the cops that he fell down, and they dropped the matter. I, on the other hand, was taken in on probation violation for alcohol consumption. I have my sentencing tomorrow :( As for the naked choke, it was probably for the best that it didn't happen. I didn't need the cops pulling up to the scene with a guy unconscoius on the ground. Something about submission holds, I got into a fight about 4 years ago with a guy that started by bringing his arm back about 3 miles, then throwing his punch. I was all about the groundfighting back then, and went in under his punch and took the guy to the ground. Within moments I had the guy in a guillotine choke while I was on my knees with him on his hands and knees in front of me. I cranked backwards and he quit on the spot. I figure the fight was over because, after all, he gave up. As soon as I let go of him he jumped on me and started the ground and pound. I got out of it, but not without taking some good shots that I felt the next few days. Submissions sometimes aren't what they appear to be in the UFC. I learned that the hard way. Oops, time to go back to work.

again, you didn't even bother to answer my questions, and took the opportunity to say how to tough you are.

you are an idiot - only trash gets into fights on the street at 36.

grow up.
 
I call bs, there is no reason in hell you should be getting into street fights. Grow up. Yeah, you are really trying to stay out of trouble. what a crock.
 
Hey spanky, I didn't even see your post before I posted mine, amen brother, he is either full of crap and an internet warrior, or a trouble maker , either way, bs thread. :chomp:
 
Last one,
Ahem,
I got into a fight, in the ring, a sponsored event. Umm, we both hit each other,went to the ground, lot's of people saw it, police were there(for the crowd). At the end, we shook hands and congratulated each other. There was trophy for the winner. The loser vowed to train harder next time. No one was seriously hurt, no assault charges were ever in the picture.

End of story.

Better version of your story I think, cya.
 
Bro, I find it hard to believe that you spent 25 minutes trying to avoid a fight and were drunk enough to go to jail for an alchohol related probation offense. I think you're probably making all this shit up. Nobody uses a roundhouse in a street fight. I'm surprised you didn't claim to use the "crane teqnique" ala Dainel Laruso. If you aren't full of shit you need to grow up. 23 street fights? We're the same age and although I'm not a martial artist I can kick most peoples ass. Probably about 90%. I have been in a total of 4 real fights in my adult life. 3 were in my early 20's and all 3 I went looking for and the 4th was a drunk guy in Cabo San Lucas that put his hands on my wife.
 
First of all, it wasn't a roundhouse in where you jump up, spin around and throw a kick in midair; I'm talking a regular roundhouse muay thai kick. Second, I never said that I've always made a serious attempt to stay out of trouble. I never try to get into it either, but I don't remember claiming to be an angel, either. If you can find it, quote it. And so what if I was drinking? If I don't care, why should you? Until you have any importance in my life, your opinions have no value to me. So I felt bad about the incident a few days ago, so I posted about it on here. That feeling is gone now, but since there have been several responses about it, I keep replying. What am I supposed to do if you don't believe me? Care? This thread is just going to get more and more ugly, but what does it matter? So keep flaming if you want about any self-righteous tangent, but remember, its all just words on a screen to me.
 
I just think the fact that you included that you had been in 23 fights was silly and something a 20 yr old would do not a 36 yr old. Hey, don't get me wrong, some people deserve to get there ass kicked and the guy in your 23rd street fight probably DID deserve it.
 
That was the point, that it was silly. I sat there thinking, "jeez, 23 times? How the hell did it come to that?" It sure wasn't meant to sound arrogant. I could see how someone would interpret it that way, by just seeing the words, without the tone of distain behind it. But most of them happened in my teens and early twenties. I'm certainly not trying to sound invincible by making that statement. I certainly didn't WIN 23 fights. Many of them were pure ass-whoopin's that put me in my place, and some of them I had coming to me. For example, when I was 17, I was so drunk that I hit a guy that was talking to my girlfriend. Turns out, he was talking to someone that was sitting by my girlfriend. I was a senior in HS, and that beating put me out of school for a week. Excessive? probably. Did i deserve it? probably. Some of you will have your opinions about that little tale, but it was 19 years ago. No need to flame. Point is, being at the ripe old age of 36 now, I realize that most people can go through life without getting into ANY fights. But after growing up in the wrong crowd, I got my shit together and am doing well. So for this thing to happen a few weeks ago, its like all too familiar. But like someone said on here, don't worry about it, so I won't, and i'm not. Actually, I was hoping for some discussion with others about any incidents they've experienced, good or bad. YOu know, like how much training did you have at the time it happened, was it usefull, etc. Not a judging of others about why it happened, but the self-defense aspect of it. I figured, this is a martial arts board, there should be some pretty interesting things from others here. Maybe a good idea for a whole new thread.
 
tbuz67 said:
Actually, I was hoping for some discussion with others about any incidents they've experienced, good or bad. YOu know, like how much training did you have at the time it happened, was it usefull, etc. Not a judging of others about why it happened, but the self-defense aspect of it. I figured, this is a martial arts board, there should be some pretty interesting things from others here. Maybe a good idea for a whole new thread.


Ok, I have trained in kyokushin karate (full contact) for 12 years - did one year as a full time karate student in Osaka, was a sparring partner for some big name k1 fighters, and now done aikido for 1 year....that said, I don't bother getting into fights on the street - as its not a fair fight for the other guy. If someone in a bar swears at me, or says something to a friend of mine, I don't care. Sure, I could take 99% of the population out with a single hit, but its not worth getting a bullet in the head over.

If there is a sitiuation where a fight could start, or a dark alley, whatever, I walk the other way. Avoiding conflict is always the smartest way to go. I have nothing to prove to anyone.
 
Maybe I'm being a dick, but there have been VERY few situations that I couldn't talk my way out of.

I am capable of doing some serious dammage to someone if I wanted to, but usually I just let them talk their shit and I go about my business because overall I'm a peaceful person and I don't like to hurt people even if maybe they should get their ass kicked, but if you touch me or anyone I care about, then you're fucked.

Most guys that think their tough shit can't fight worth a damn. 99% of what goes on before a fight is all intimidation tactics. If the guy isn't saying much or appears calm, then you should worry.

If I were you I'd maybe just watch how I present myself around others. Very rarely do I get messed with and even rarer still I can't talk my way out of it. Alot of it has to do with how you carry yourself. When I walk around I'm loose and relaxed, but strong at the same time and anyone with half a brain usually registers it as maybe not a good idea to mess with this person.

Guys that appear calm and strong are the ones that are the most confident and don't have to walk around acting like a tough guy and getting into fights.

I don't even like touching people I don't know well because venereal diseases and HIV/AIDS are all around man. That's part of the reason I quit BJJ, because it seemed at least once a week someone would get a cut or bloddy nose and get it on you. Not cool, especially since HIV testing isn't required to participate in full contact training.

Be CAREFULL.
 
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