I believe this to be a gravely important issue for our safety: Rec. drug discussion

[Frackal]

Re: lmao

so frack your saying no more pot talk, but GHB is up for discussion? as a guy who has had some EXP with pot, i can assure you if theyre gonna shit over herb GHB is fair game.

i also find it funny that most of the ppl on here supporting this was frothing over cialis.

personally, i think this is a crock. some atty general gets a hair up his ass and every american just rolls over. i wonder how we got to this place to begin with.

so in all fairness, if were gonna ban the mere mention of pot and coke, why not ban the discussion of every drug but AAS? i already hear ppl talking about having a script for xanax, so if i get one for herb can i talk about that to?

i hear lets stop talking about rec drugs, and now ppl are trying to carve out exceptions for there own vice. it should be all or nothing, or the rule is a crock. kinda like the elite fitness good guy drug rule.

im going to go ahead and douse myself with gasoline in preparation for the flames, but all im saying is if this rule is put in effect, it shouldnt be half assed, and shouldnt be used as a sword against certian drugs.

otherwise it may be as ignorant as having alcohol being legal and getting tossed in jail for a joint. my 2 cents.

Bro I see what you are saying and you're making some good points...I would normally include GHB in there for sure but I have a feeling that that is just not going to be something that the majority will go for because it has legit bodybuilding applications....everything else though, as I DID already mention earlier, should be restricted. I am talking about C-III and above. If you read my post that included ecstacy, coke, heroin, weed, shrooms etc etc ..

Look, I have no problems with these substances but just about once a day there is some sort of post about "coke and roids" "ecstacy and juice" blah blah...

We know that there is going to be increased heat on the net, so we dont want to draw any more heat here...there are several other boards that have adopted these principles...animal's board which has had alot of legal activity as well had a thread on 'too many recreational drug posts' this morning....

I feel we should follow suit. They will agree that rec drugs is what will bring sources down faster than anything. Lets not give the feds a reason to look here any more than they need to.

 

[Golfer18--old]

I agree 100%. No posting rec drugs here.

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

If authorities are permitted to act on "reasonable suspicion"... it is the bench mark of a police state.

There are many great things that come with being American... I can only imagine. However, with respect to what we are talking about in this thread... I am glad I am NOT an American.

 

[thankgodformexico]

Guys, this is the internet where free speach is allowed and it's impossible/wrong to try and set rules on what you can and cannot talk about...that's ridiculous! Sometimes it trips me out how paranoid people get.

There is a difference between talking about personal use of rec drugs, and source posting (which is stupid to begin with). Goverment agencies don't go after individuals for personal consumption or even small sales, they go after large dealers and trafficers.

How can you seperate rec drugs from bodybuilding anyway? What if you use ghb for sleep, but also to get high? What if you don't have a RX for vicoden but you use it for pain associated with bodybuilding? what if you smoke weed to stimulate your appetite so you can get more calories in? Couldn't you classify steroids as "recreational drugs"? I mean they aren't surving a medical purpose for those of us who use them this way, and we do it as a "hobby" or whatever word you want to use to descrie it, out of choice, doesn't that fit the description of recreational? Does something have to get you high to be called recreational?

Look at all the people that wear marijuana shirts or publicly endorce weed on tv, admit to smoking it ect. Snoop dog has been on tv in his "green room" smoking, there are hundreds of examples. Do these people worry about the dea knocking down their door for smoking some herb...no! When people are at concerts smoken weed by the hundreds are the police there trying to arrest all of them? No one gives a shit about people using steriods...it's accepted in professional sports...they don't harm people...and the goverment doesn't lose money from people using them.

You guys should roll one up, take a couple shots and relax haha, jesus! The airforce gave those two court martialed pilots speed, our presidents admit to smoken weed, Mark McGuire and Bonds use juice as well as all wwf wrestlers, actors and rock starts are known for using drugs...doesn't mean uncle sam is watchen all of them, waiting to bust everybody.

If someone was on here selling mass quantities of ghb openly that would be one thing, but most people aren't that stupid.

 

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bro I could care less about ashcroft, I posted on here how there were escalated busts of anabolics due to the "Operation X" the extacy sting because alot of roid dealers deal coke and ex and other drugs, and I also posted that there were monitors that are looking into domestic sources and relations with IP stuff, and guys just want to flame away on me, and you come on here and say ohh we shouldnt talk about rec. drugs, due to ashcroft's beliefs and his doubled budget to fight the X trade, due to the fact that rec. drug talk could lead to more anabolic bust, and members come on here eating the cheese from under your nuts, and kissin your ass!!! Thats why I hardly post here anymore, too many know it all's, too many indians thinking their chiefs, when they're not even part of the tribe!!!!



Bro, I have seen some of your other posts, but before I read this one, I never realized just how ignorant that you are. This is an anabolic bodybuilding board, not a rec. druggie board. No one's kissing anyone's ass it's just that most of us share a common belief, which is rec. drugs and bodybuilding do not mix.

I'm 100% with Frackel on this issue.

 

[Frackal]

Thankgodformexico your idealism is nice but unrealistic. If the government is not after personal users, then why have several been busted in the last month?

I've already said it about 50 times but I'll spell it out once again for your benefit:

-Attorney General John Ashcroft hates drugs...he is on record saying people should be jailed just for talking about them

-He seems intent on taking down the internet drug trade.

-On other boards who have had legal problems, it is well known to them that recreational drug posts will attract feds like nothing else.

-It is now very easy for law enforcement to wiretap and monitor your communications. They no longer need probable cause...In their opinion 'if you use drugs, you support terrorism.' - They've used this justification to turn the 'anti-terrorism,' anti-civil rights surveillance laws against drug sellers and users.

"The War On Terror will now be joined with the War On Illegal Drug Use" - John Ashcroft

Basically bro, what I am trying to say is that it is far easier for them to get at your sources now than it ever was... they HOPEFULLY will be less likely to target our board and the sources that may be around it if they are not logging on and seeing "Fun with ecstasy and juice" every five minutes...

Do you understand? I am not going to explain this again. Read the entire post next time before you start your critisisms

 

[Frackal]

And by the way, this is a private internet message board, not the public internet itself...so free "speach" is not entirely valid

 

[FISHTALES]

This is grey in that what if I have a script for my anti-anxiety meds like xanax, or ambien to sleep with, etc. While these drugs can be potentially abused they might also be legitimately prescribed...

If you do have a script, then you would be under doctor care and supervision so there is no real reason to discuss them. if you need to discuss your script discuss it with your doc.

in no way am i trying to flame your post, just my point of view...

 

[Frackal]

Right, and besides for the last time none of the aforementioned drugs are C-III or higher as I've stated 3 or 4x

 

[Numberfive]

100% behind you Frackal. Rec drugs have no buisness here.

I think that says it all.