I believe this to be a gravely important issue for our safety: Rec. drug discussion

[daemon]

Frackal, like Nelson said, we know your heart's in the right place.

You keep bringing up the DEA reference that "steroids aren't on our radar". This is where I think we are disagreeing. I believe they are on thier radar. Of all the busts recently, has there been any connection to recreational drugs? To my knowledge, no. That leads me to the conclusion that the DEA is paying attention to steroids. Look at NCMP2, he was selling non-scheduled drugs and he got busted. My belief is that it was too easy NOT to bust him. Again, stick it in thier faces, make it easy, they're going to come after you.

 

[Frackal]

True daemon, but regardless of how much it is or isnt 'on their radar,' ... we'd like to stay off it as much as possible...and the NCMP2 thing had more to it then you think also bro from what I have read...

 

[liftsiron]

Frackal, like Nelson said, we know your heart's in the right place.

You keep bringing up the DEA reference that "steroids aren't on our radar". This is where I think we are disagreeing. I believe they are on thier radar. Of all the busts recently, has there been any connection to recreational drugs? To my knowledge, no. That leads me to the conclusion that the DEA is paying attention to steroids. Look at NCMP2, he was selling non-scheduled drugs and he got busted. My belief is that it was too easy NOT to bust him. Again, stick it in thier faces, make it easy, they're going to come after you.


Very few of the big busts were related to steroids alone. Was ttokkyo busted because they sold anabolics to bodybuilders, no they were busted because of K. Son your knowledge seems very limited.

 

[Puc]

i would like you to please classify the following drugs into either the "yup" or the "nope" category

5meo-dipt (legal)
meth (real value as a cutting drug)
pot (keep in mind you will have to jump off havocs cock if you say nope)
Adderal, Xanax, and other legal, yet abused, meds

I understand you are not trying to justify the morality of some drugs, but you are trying to regulate discussion based on the moral stance of some government agengy(ashcroft).

My point is, do we really know which drugs heil ashcroft has a hair up his butt about?

You ought to know due to recent events that the top of the hit list is GHB. if you talk about GHB, nothing else matters, because you are already on the radar.

Your restrictions will net nothing.

 

[Frackal]

Well puckles I think I've already clarified things about 10x in this thread.... and yes one prime drug ashcroft is after is ecstasy which gets discussed here fairly often.

 

[lonewulf]

Agreed, recreational drug use discussions have no purpose on this board.-WULF

 

[Slyder190]

No offense but...

What goes on here in general is frowned upon by the feds. People talk of recreatinal drugs here from time to time. Most posts are not endorsements for their use however and I have yet to read a post asking how to roll a joint, heat up a crack rock or inject heroin properly. Most memebers here tell others to steer away from such drugs use. Talk of recreational drug use around these parts should be left as freedom of speech that does not push any real limits. And while misusing recreational drugs can turn some into assholes literally overnight, so can the use of steroids, and people can hurt themselves (and others) with recreational drugs and juice alike. Just as juicers are descrminated against, so are many drugs users, who may still be good people. I smoke weed every now and agian. Not very often thoguh, as I beleive it may hinder performance and results in the gym when used often. I have tried about every drug in my day. I have friends who like to drink, friends who smoke weed daily, friends who do coke i also have friends who are straight edge and do nothing. They are all good people wether they're straight edge or wether they are bangin lines or slammin shots. I have lost a friend or two along the way because drugs overcame them, but as a result, such people are not my friends today. So to each his own. If you wanna get technical, juice and rec. drugs will land you in legal trouble and can ptentially harm you. Enough said.

 

[Puc]

Well puckles I think I've already clarified things about 10x in this thread.... and yes one prime drug ashcroft is after is ecstasy which gets discussed here fairly often.

Then please classify this for me, because it is a question i was going to pose before i saw this sticky (what an odd coincidence).

What recreational drugs will have the least impact on a (cutting) diet?

I ask this because I am knee deep in ketosis, and would like to try and have SOME fun (instead of pacing back and forth and thinking about sugar). GHB is a no-go because hunger instincts are too strong. Pot is the same way. Alcohol is a no go.

BUT... some research tryptamines ought to be a reasonable option. Also, possibly X or coke.

NOW, I think this is a very real, reasonable question that involves both life and training. Am I allowed to ask it?

 

[Frackal]

Slyder, I have addressed your exact post about 10x already in this thread. I'll say it again, it's pretty fucking simple: In general, the FEDS DO NOT target juice like they do recreational drugs. IF they come to this board and see alot of recreational drug talk, no matter the variety, they WILL give it a higher priority IMO, and I've read a pretty fair bit on the subject. It is the impression that matters.


Puckles I have sent you a pm

 

[Citruscide]

'Terroristic individuals?' Well that's ok isnt it? I mean we can trust them to only go after the terrorists right?

The sales of drugs fund terrorism... therefore, any of the 4th amendment decay that can be applied to terrorism can be applied to any form of drug sales... scary.

I agree 100% with you Frackal.

C-ditty