i am so psyched right now

[bigmann245]

Right now I’m going to college on the VA's dime due to me being disabled and all. Well I just found out that even though the VA is paying 100% of my tuition, books and a living allowance on top that, but because I work for the state of Florida I get my tuition reimbursed. I went to the business office at the school and they had me sign a form that refunds to me $1400+ for my tuition this semester. This kicks ass. I thought since the VA paid for my classes that I was not eligible for the reimbursement. But both the school and the VA told me that I am eligible for the tuition reimbursement and I get to keep it.

 

[Cal_21]

Sick dude.

 

[Stefka]

That is awesome.
I am so jealous.
I'm in debt.

 

[bigmann245]

That is awesome.
I am so jealous.
I'm in debt.

because of school? or just in debt in general?

 

[Stefka]

because of school? or just in debt in general?

Student loans.
I dont even have a credit card but I'll be at least $60,000 in debt by 2009.

 

[Cal_21]

Student loans.
I dont even have a credit card but I'll be at least $60,000 in debt by 2009.

I feel you

 

[avidinternet]

If you skip the school and go straight to making money...you'd have more than $60,000.00 in the bank by 2009.

Just sayin

 

[Stefka]

If you skip the school and go straight to making money...you'd have more than $60,000.00 in the bank by 2009.

Just sayin

But I like school.
I just don't like paying for it.

 

[bigmann245]

Student loans.
I dont even have a credit card but I'll be at least $60,000 in debt by 2009.

the good thing is student loans do not weigh as heavily on credit as if they were loans for personal crap. 60k is quite a bit. even if i wasnt getting my school paid for my financial aid would cover it all plus my books. since the VA is paying for my school i get all my financial aid every semester. i feel bad sometimes when i talk to classmates and they dont even have money for their books. i kep my books from previous semesters and give them to students the following semesters that cant afford them. i could sell them back to the school but giving them to someone who needs them more makes me feel better.

i tell you what, i may never want to graduate. i make more money in school than if i just worked full time. people tell me i deserve it for serving our country and serving in 3 wars. but i still look at it as i didnt do much and im not as badly disabled as some of my friends are. my brother in law lost his nephew in iraq after he was in the marines only 6 months. i did 12 years and 3 wars and trust me im glad i made it out the way i did. but breaking your ankle playing semi-pro football isnt a heros way out of the military like i did. i feel like a loser who got a lucky injury.

for now im making the best of going to school. its not forever and soon i will have to actually earn my money. hopefuly with a sports medicine degree i can make a good living.

 

[Cal_21]

the good thing is student loans do not weigh as heavily on credit as if they were loans for personal crap. 60k is quite a bit. even if i wasnt getting my school paid for my financial aid would cover it all plus my books. since the VA is paying for my school i get all my financial aid every semester. i feel bad sometimes when i talk to classmates and they dont even have money for their books. i kep my books from previous semesters and give them to students the following semesters that cant afford them. i could sell them back to the school but giving them to someone who needs them more makes me feel better.

i tell you what, i may never want to graduate. i make more money in school than if i just worked full time. people tell me i deserve it for serving our country and serving in 3 wars. but i still look at it as i didnt do much and im not as badly disabled as some of my friends are. my brother in law lost his nephew in iraq after he was in the marines only 6 months. i did 12 years and 3 wars and trust me im glad i made it out the way i did. but breaking your ankle playing semi-pro football isnt a heros way out of the military like i did. i feel like a loser who got a lucky injury.

for now im making the best of going to school. its not forever and soon i will have to actually earn my money. hopefuly with a sports medicine degree i can make a good living.

You sound like you have strong character.

 

[avidinternet]

But I like school.
I just don't like paying for it.

Easy solution...keep going and you won't have to.

Course that leads to being 40 with a regular job, a Doctorate and $100K in debt. But, it keeps the schools in business.

 

[Stefka]

Easy solution...keep going and you won't have to.

Course that leads to being 40 with a regular job, a Doctorate and $100K in debt. But, it keeps the schools in business.

The average starting salary in my field is $140k...
But I would love to stay in forever - make people call me Dr. Stefka.

 

[samoth]

Easy solution...keep going and you won't have to.

Course that leads to being 40 with a regular job, a Doctorate and $100K in debt. But, it keeps the schools in business.

She'll be making bank in NYC BIGLAW, hth.

 

[Sub-Zero]

The average starting salary in my field is $140k...
But I would love to stay in forever - make people call me Dr. Stefka.

whats your major again, i wannt some of that money

 

[Stefka]

whats your major again, i wannt some of that money

I'm a grad student.
I'll sue your ass.

 

[avidinternet]

She'll be making bank in NYC BIGLAW, hth.

No prob, school is great for the peeps that love it.

But if you start making good bank earlier on in your life and keep on going you will always beat the late starter.

Compound interest.

hth

 

[Stefka]

Hey, I have an idea...
Will you guys just call me Dr. Stefka from now on?
Then I can just skip the whole PhD thing and live out my fantasies on EF.
Thanks in advance.

 

[bigmann245]

Easy solution...keep going and you won't have to.

Course that leads to being 40 with a regular job, a Doctorate and $100K in debt. But, it keeps the schools in business.

you see i dont want to be 40 with a regular job. im 32 and the reason im behind is because i chose to go into the military at 17 because i grew up on the streets of new york and if i didnt join id still be on the streets in new york but instead of hanging out there id be living on the streets. when i was in the military they had tuition assistance you could use along with your GI Bill but i put all my efforts in my job. i saw so many guys try to go to school while in and got screwed. either they sacrificed their evaluations or they said to hell with school. many guys signed up for school, started going then the navy changed their working hours and they had to drop out of class. or they fought to stay in class and not change shifts but then their evaluations got hurt and if you never served your evaluations is all you have in the navy. without good ones you will never advance to the next rank. its a serious catch 22.

my career was #2 to me while i was in, my #1 was my family. this also hurt my evaluations because i never put the navy first and they knew it. if you were not 110% Navy while your in then you are a loser in their eyes. but then again thats why the divorce rate is so high in the military. many of my buddies got divorced because they chose the navy over family.

if you dont repsect the men in service because of what they do then thats fine. but at leased respect them for doing it with a family because the navy wife is seriously the hardest job in the navy. picture your husband leaving for 6 months and longer at a time and your stuck home with the kids, bills, lawn, dishes, school teachers problems, sickness, car trouble, injury, cook dinner, breakfast and lunch dayin and day out, disipline the children...... imagine doing all this and more BY YOURSELF.... when i left for 6 months deployments i didnt have to worry about anything besides work. my wife had to worry about everything else.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Hey, I have an idea...
Will you guys just call me Dr. Stefka from now on?
Then I can just skip the whole PhD thing and live out my fantasies on EF.
Thanks in advance.

ill call you dr if you perform a couple procedures

 

[bigmann245]

i know all the single moms are going to chime in and say they do it all the time. believe me i have so much respect for single moms its not funny. but add to the stress not knowing if your husband is coming home alive is more than many can handle.

 

[Stefka]

you see i dont want to be 40 with a regular job. im 32 and the reason im behind is because i chose to go into the military at 17 because i grew up on the streets of new york and if i didnt join id still be on the streets in new york but instead of hanging out there id be living on the streets. when i was in the military they had tuition assistance you could use along with your GI Bill but i put all my efforts in my job. i saw so many guys try to go to school while in and got screwed. either they sacrificed their evaluations or they said to hell with school. many guys signed up for school, started going then the navy changed their working hours and they had to drop out of class. or they fought to stay in class and not change shifts but then their evaluations got hurt and if you never served your evaluations is all you have in the navy. without good ones you will never advance to the next rank. its a serious catch 22.

my career was #2 to me while i was in, my #1 was my family. this also hurt my evaluations because i never put the navy first and they knew it. if you were not 110% Navy while your in then you are a loser in their eyes. but then again thats why the divorce rate is so high in the military. many of my buddies got divorced because they chose the navy over family.

if you dont repsect the men in service because of what they do then thats fine. but at leased respect them for doing it with a family because the navy wife is seriously the hardest job in the navy. picture your husband leaving for 6 months and longer at a time and your stuck home with the kids, bills, lawn, dishes, school teachers problems, sickness, car trouble, injury, cook dinner, breakfast and lunch dayin and day out, disipline the children...... imagine doing all this and more BY YOURSELF.... when i left for 6 months deployments i didnt have to worry about anything besides work. my wife had to worry about everything else.

You did good.
You got off the streets of NY.
You kept your family together.
You are getting an education.
You are doing awesome - and you're getting paid.
You should be proud.

 

[avidinternet]

Hey, I have an idea...
Will you guys just call me Dr. Stefka from now on?
Then I can just skip the whole PhD thing and live out my fantasies on EF.
Thanks in advance.

Sure Dr. Stefka...

But I think that the Dr /Lawyer /Scientist things are actually a few of the only real reasons to go to school.

Change your user name to Dr. Stefka

 

[Sub-Zero]

You did good.
You got off the streets of NY.
You kept your family together.
You are getting an education.
You are doing awesome - and you're getting paid.
You should be proud.

You are a good asskisser.



for real tho, awsome work bigman.

 

[Stefka]

Sure Dr. Stefka...

But I think that the Dr /Lawyer /Scientist things are actually a few of the only real reasons to go to school.

Change your user name to Dr. Stefka

That is a wonderful idea...brb

 

[samoth]

No prob, school is great for the peeps that love it.

But if you start making good bank earlier on in your life and keep on going you will always beat the late starter.

Compound interest.

hth

Because in today's world, you don't make bank unless you have a good education. And I mean real bank, like BIGLAW or CEO salary. Most uneducated plebes don't even know how to calculate compound interest, hth.

 

[samoth]

But I think that the Dr /Lawyer /Scientist things are actually a few of the only real reasons to go to school.

Too bad only two of those pay well.

 

[Stefka]

Because in today's world, you don't make bank unless you have a good education. And I mean real bank, like BIGLAW or CEO salary. Most uneducated plebes don't even know how to calculate compound interest, hth.

But most science PhDs never make more than $70k/year

 

[jerkbox]

Because in today's world, you don't make bank unless you have a good education. And I mean real bank, like BIGLAW or CEO salary. Most uneducated plebes don't even know how to calculate compound interest, hth.

nonsense....money can be made in many ways

 

[bigmann245]

You did good.
You got off the streets of NY.
You kept your family together.
You are getting an education.
You are doing awesome - and you're getting paid.
You should be proud.

I just feel I'm so far behind its not funny. My in-laws actually laughed when I told them I’m going to start going to school. They swore to my wife it was for the girls and parties but believe me, I’ve been going for 2 years now and I have not socialized with 1 girl or went to one party since I started. If I did get to go to a party id bring my wife with me. Trust me I have been asked to many parties while here but most of these parties are teeny bopper parties with high school kids there too because they are all around 18. I’m past the partying thing. But I feel like I am seriously behind. I see other people 10 years younger than me making a lot of money. Most of them have degrees so I know my time will come but it still sucks seeing other people younger than I way ahead. I wish I could get school done quicker. My goal is to become a doctor which is why I chose sports medicine. The VA won’t pay for more than 4 years of school and the degree I get has to be a solid degree and not something I have to go to 4 more years of school to use. This way I can be a sports trainer or physical therapist while I continue school and become a doctor. Seriously I want to be specialist, maybe a chiropractor or orthopedic surgeon. But I have to take small steps because I do have a family to look after and I have to work full time while in school.

 

[samoth]

nonsense....money can be made in many ways

Take the average income from HS graduates, BS graduates, MS, PhD, JD, MD, etc. and it's pretty obvious.

Money can be made playing the lottery, but that doesn't mean that it's the credited choice for doing so.

I'm talking about making lots of money, as in lawyers, doctors, and upper-level business -- far beyond what's needed for a comfortable living.

 

[samoth]

But most science PhDs never make more than $70k/year

It's more around $100k because most science PhD's go into academia, however, it takes a while to get tenure. But that's nothing compared to what MD's and JD's pull in. No one goes into pure science expecting to make bank.

 

[avidinternet]

Because in today's world, you don't make bank unless you have a good education. And I mean real bank, like BIGLAW or CEO salary. Most uneducated plebes don't even know how to calculate compound interest, hth.

Fortunately I have a college education AND my bankers and I know how to calculate compound interest.

 

[jerkbox]

Take the average income from HS graduates, BS graduates, MS, PhD, JD, MD, etc. and it's pretty obvious.

Money can be made playing the lottery, but that doesn't mean that it's the credited choice for doing so.

I'm talking about making lots of money, as in lawyers, doctors, and upper-level business -- far beyond what's needed for a comfortable living.

bro, there's plenty of entrepeneurs, CEOs, etc etc who have made millions with a bach degree from some crappy college or a high school diploma even....a high priced education doesn't guarantee jack shit...i guess for some it's a great way to impress peeps on a message board

 

[samoth]

Fortunately I have a college education AND my bankers and I know how to calculate compound interest.

If you think the average bachelor can make up in three years what a lawer pulls in three years of school, you're mistaken. You might want to recalculate your numbers there, hth.

 

[Sub-Zero]

bro, there's plenty of entrepeneurs, CEOs, etc etc who have made millions with a bach degree from some crappy college or a high school diploma even....a high priced education doesn't guarantee jack shit...i guess for some it's a great way to impress peeps on a message board

haha struck a soft spot.

i personally hate school and wouldnt mind making money now

 

[bigmann245]

You are a good asskisser.



for real tho, awsome work bigman.

thanks bro. i see people like yourself that are young and all i can say is make your choices in life wizely. do not be quick to rush into things. i wish i had the dicipline to go to school out of high school. my gpa in high school was 2.4 because i never went ot class but scored high on the tests. my teachers thought i was cheating until they realized i was actually smart but lazy. if there was a party i went to it, if there was girls hanging out i was there. i would skip school and work for anything just to have fun. i had to get out of new york. im glad i did but now i look back and see what i could have dont better. i cant change the past but i can help others along the way. im 32 and fro some people they say its still young because 32 today is like 22 was years ago. people are starting out late in life because we are living longer and our parents made more money than our ancestors. people are postponing life more and more these days. i just feel i wasted so many years that i could have made better use of. i just now started investing. the navy didnt have any investment plans when i started. now they have a thrift savings plan which is unbelievable but they didnt come out with it until ly last 2 years in. i put money in but once i got out you cant put anymore money in so i rolled it over to the retirement plan my job has. but had i started that investment plan when i was 17 i would have more money than i do now.

man im all depressed tonight. i need a serious e-hug.

 

[samoth]

bro, there's plenty of entrepeneurs, CEOs, etc etc who have made millions with a bach degree from some crappy college or a high school diploma even....a high priced education doesn't guarantee jack shit...i guess for some it's a great way to impress peeps on a message board

Averaged out, the guys with higher and more degrees make more. This is the reason I choose my wording to include terms like "average", "most", et cetera.

You won't get a prestigious CEO position with a high school deploma. Is it possible? Sure. So is winning the lottery. But I'm looking at the numbers averaged out, not exceptions to the norm. Also, I'm not differentiating how much prestige money a university is, and I assume people know that LS costs multitudes more than UG, making all LS degrees "high priced" relative to UG degrees. Lawyers still make bank compared to HS and bachelor grads in general.

 

[jerkbox]

haha struck a soft spot.

i personally hate school and wouldnt mind making money now

i actually love school...hate payng for it


i dunno...too many threads today with douches stroking their egos talking about suits and thier high priced educations and corporate jobs....reminds me of why i hate corporate goons.

 

[jerkbox]

Averaged out, the guys with higher and more degrees make more. This is the reason I choose my wording to include terms like "average", "most", et cetera.

You won't get a prestigious CEO position with a high school deploma. Is it possible? Sure. So is winning the lottery. But I'm looking at the numbers averaged out, not exceptions to the norm. Also, I'm not differentiating how much prestige money a university is, and I assume people know that LS costs multitudes more than UG, making all LS degrees "high priced" relative to UG degrees. Lawyers still make bank compared to HS and bachelor grads in general.

well, if you want follow an average path, i guess thats the way to go

 

[bigmann245]

i know where i was, i know where i want to be. its getting there that takes time. i just dont want to waste anymore time.

 

[samoth]

i actually love school...hate payng for it

i dunno...too many threads today with douches stroking their egos talking about suits and thier high priced educations and corporate jobs....reminds me of why i hate corporate goons.

In today's world, the best way to make money is to start a business selling education.

It is becoming a joke nowadays, granted. Then again, I know nothing about big business and corporations and suits and that kinda stuff.

 

[samoth]

well, if you want follow an average path, i guess thats the way to go

Doing so, one would logically expect to make average money. Which was not what I was arguing in the first place. QED.

 

[Stefka]

So many educated people in this thread.
So many misspelled words in this thread.

 

[Sub-Zero]

thanks bro. i see people like yourself that are young and all i can say is make your choices in life wizely. do not be quick to rush into things. i wish i had the dicipline to go to school out of high school. my gpa in high school was 2.4 because i never went ot class but scored high on the tests. my teachers thought i was cheating until they realized i was actually smart but lazy. if there was a party i went to it, if there was girls hanging out i was there. i would skip school and work for anything just to have fun. i had to get out of new york. im glad i did but now i look back and see what i could have dont better. i cant change the past but i can help others along the way. im 32 and fro some people they say its still young because 32 today is like 22 was years ago. people are starting out late in life because we are living longer and our parents made more money than our ancestors. people are postponing life more and more these days. i just feel i wasted so many years that i could have made better use of. i just now started investing. the navy didnt have any investment plans when i started. now they have a thrift savings plan which is unbelievable but they didnt come out with it until ly last 2 years in. i put money in but once i got out you cant put anymore money in so i rolled it over to the retirement plan my job has. but had i started that investment plan when i was 17 i would have more money than i do now.

man im all depressed tonight. i need a serious e-hug.

dont be depressed. hugs2u

 

[samoth]

i know where i was, i know where i want to be.

*inserts lame QM joke*

 

[jerkbox]

So many misspelled words in this thread.

shit happens

 

[bigmann245]

So many educated people in this thread.
So many misspelled words in this thread.

thank goodness for spellcheck is all i have to say. i wouldnt be getting A's on my essays in school. EF needs to install a better "spellcheck as you type" program.

 

[avidinternet]

If you think the average bachelor can make up in three years what a lawer pulls in three years of school, you're mistaken. You might want to recalculate your numbers there, hth.

I was not speaking of the "average" bachelor...only from experience.

And my calculations are far from "average", thanks.

 

[samoth]

And my calculations are far from "average", thanks.

Numbers don't lie, hth.

 

[avidinternet]

Numbers don't lie, hth.

That is my FAVORITE saying...seriously, true story

 

[samoth]

That is my FAVORITE saying...seriously, true story

FWIW, that was an incredibly short story. HTH.

 

[avidinternet]

Str8 & to the point, my kind of story.

 

[bigmann245]

FWIW, that was an incredibly short story. HTH.

its funny we used to say that if someone started a story by saying "true story..." we would say its bullshit.

 

[avidinternet]

Well, numbers don't lie so it IS a true story.

 

[samoth]

Avid, what the heck does your shirt say? Something-l-l-a-s?

 

[avidinternet]

Listen college boy...it says Greece in Greek.

 

[bigmann245]

Listen college boy...it says Greece in Greek.

 

[biteme]

The average starting salary in my field is $140k...
But I would love to stay in forever - make people call me Dr. Stefka.

I'd still call you bitch.... haha... j/k

 

[Smurfy]

bro, there's plenty of entrepeneurs, CEOs, etc etc who have made millions with a bach degree from some crappy college or a high school diploma even....a high priced education doesn't guarantee jack shit...i guess for some it's a great way to impress peeps on a message board

True. My father has a Undergrad Degree and he's been a Regional CEO @ Humana and Executive VP at NY Life.

I think though, in today's world, more and more people are getting post-grad educations it's becoming more of a standard for that level of corporate america. Take Bran for example. He's out there running shit now that he's got the graduate degree.

 

[bigmann245]

True. My father has a Undergrad Degree and he's been a Regional CEO @ Humana and Executive VP at NY Life.

I think though, in today's world, more and more people are getting post-grad educations it's becoming more of a standard for that level of corporate america. Take Bran for example. He's out there running shit now that he's got the graduate degree.

they say that a bachelors degree today is the equivalent to a high school diploma 15 years ago. seems they keep raising the bar every few years. if too many people have one its not worth anything anymore so you have to get the next best thing. pretty soon you will need a doctorates degree to take a piss.

 

[Gambino]

good shit bigman
how are you disabled, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[inkspot]

they say that a bachelors degree today is the equivalent to a high school diploma 15 years ago. seems they keep raising the bar every few years. if too many people have one its not worth anything anymore so you have to get the next best thing. pretty soon you will need a doctorates degree to take a piss.

for your wife and thanks to you for protecting our freedoms.

imo they keep raising the bar because the standards have fallen. It use to be with a high school diploma a person could read and write, not anymore

 

[Stefka]

I'd still call you bitch.... haha... j/k

You can call me Dr. Bitch.

 

[bigmann245]

good shit bigman
how are you disabled, if you don't mind me asking?

I severely broke my ankle playing semi-pro football. The rookie running back thought he could barrel over the linebacker on the 5 yard line instead of juking around him and when tackled they both landed on the outside of my ankle which was planted on the ground. My ankle snapped, folded and they rolled up on me while the guy I was blocking pushed me into them the other way. When I looked down my toes were pointing towards the end zone and my knee was facing up. Eventually on the stretcher my toes were pointing down to the floor off the side while my knee was pointing up. I had about 7 surgeries total but because of a navy doctor and his recommendations I am now permanently disabled and lost all rang of motion in my ankle. He said a long leg cast and it would heal on its own. Nope, 8 weeks later arthritis sat in and I had to have a series of surgeries to correct it but they said it will not be a permanent fix. My days of sports are over.


but as you can see it wasnt a hero's injury that got me out of the navy, just a lucky break.

 

[avidinternet]

Avid, what the heck does your shirt say? Something-l-l-a-s?

Definitions of Hellas on the Web:

The modern name for Greece, used also in ancient times to refer to the all the Greek peoples or the Greek geographical country (but the Greeks mostly thought of themselves in terms of more localized ethnic and political groupings: the Athenians, the Spartans, the Dorians, etc.). Originally just the name for one small district in Greece. It housed a religious confederacy associated with the Delphic oracle (a sort of UN) and through that may have come to be used in its wider sense. ...
www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/gretaham/Teaching/reference/greekterms.htm

 

[bigmann245]

Definitions of Hellas on the Web:

The modern name for Greece, used also in ancient times to refer to the all the Greek peoples or the Greek geographical country (but the Greeks mostly thought of themselves in terms of more localized ethnic and political groupings: the Athenians, the Spartans, the Dorians, etc.). Originally just the name for one small district in Greece. It housed a religious confederacy associated with the Delphic oracle (a sort of UN) and through that may have come to be used in its wider sense. ...
www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/gretaham/Teaching/reference/greekterms.htm

well your shirt =

 

[samoth]

Definitions of Hellas on the Web:

The modern name for Greece, used also in ancient times to refer to the all the Greek peoples or the Greek geographical country (but the Greeks mostly thought of themselves in terms of more localized ethnic and political groupings: the Athenians, the Spartans, the Dorians, etc.). Originally just the name for one small district in Greece. It housed a religious confederacy associated with the Delphic oracle (a sort of UN) and through that may have come to be used in its wider sense. ...
www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/gretaham/Teaching/reference/greekterms.htm

Oooooh. I don't remember hearing "hellas" before. Now it makes sense.

 

[avidinternet]

well your shirt =

Thanks, it's a bad representation though...

 

[heatherrae]

Right now I’m going to college on the VA's dime due to me being disabled and all. Well I just found out that even though the VA is paying 100% of my tuition, books and a living allowance on top that, but because I work for the state of Florida I get my tuition reimbursed. I went to the business office at the school and they had me sign a form that refunds to me $1400+ for my tuition this semester. This kicks ass. I thought since the VA paid for my classes that I was not eligible for the reimbursement. But both the school and the VA told me that I am eligible for the tuition reimbursement and I get to keep it.

YAY for you!

You deserve that and more!