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Hypothetical Question For All

Nelson Montana

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If you had to pick one...


Would you rather be 10% stronger, but lose 10% of your muscle mass?

Or would you rather have 10% more muscle mass and be 10% weaker?
 
more muscle... yah, I'm vain, so what? *grin*

besides, having more strength at this point is of little advantage to me...
 
Strength. For now I want it to be functional. I feel like this question is leading somewhere however. I'm curious to see a follow up if there is one.

Nelson Montana said:
If you had to pick one...


Would you rather be 10% stronger, but lose 10% of your muscle mass?

Or would you rather have 10% more muscle mass and be 10% weaker?
 
Nelson Montana said:
If you had to pick one...


Would you rather be 10% stronger, but lose 10% of your muscle mass?

Or would you rather have 10% more muscle mass and be 10% weaker?

I'd take the strength though I'd miss the mass a lot.
 
interesting question, the strength obviously would be good in day to day living
yet the muscle increase would fasten metabolism and improved asthetics,
but I think I go with strength and less muscle
 
I'd much rather be 10% stronger... even if it cost me 10% of my muscle mass.

I'm far more concerned with what these muscles can actually do. I don't care about how they look nearly as much.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Look up the word "hypothetical."

Don't need to look it up. I got the question straight to first time. Hypothetically I wouldn't make the choice. I am not the first to answer a question to the "T". Lighten up bro.
 
For an immediate result I would go with the muscle. however more strength in the long run is going to mean an increase in muscle mass so for the long haul I would take the strength increase.
 
more muscle without question
 
Interesting. No hidden agenda here. Just looking to see everyone's goals. Actually, I'd rather not change one or the other. (I just hate losing anything, even if I gain -- which is why I hate gambling). But I'd go with more muscle. What can I say? I'm a vain motherfucker.

So the next question must be, are you training optimumly for your goals? I'll bet the strength guys do. But in order to build muscle, exercises must be made to be more difficult. The idea isn't to lift more weight, but to lift less weight and make it FEEL HEAVIER.

It's one thing to do dumbell curls with 60 pounds while swinging and dipping and all the things that are natural components of functional strength. But go on a steep incline and do slow concentrated curls with 30 pounds and it will actually be more difficult and IN TURN build more muscle.
 
stronger.. mass just slows me down, but i know how to add mass in the right place so that's not a fair question..

I'd prefer to be stronger with 8% bf yr round, that will be the main goal for 2007-08
 
Nelson Montana said:
It's one thing to do dumbell curls with 60 pounds while swinging and dipping and all the things that are natural components of functional strength. But go on a steep incline and do slow concentrated curls with 30 pounds and it will actually be more difficult and IN TURN build more muscle.


I think we grow all over if we grow at all. Especially for those who don;t already have massive physiques...

I grow best doing dynamic work - fast pulls seem to blow my back and traps up compared to lat pull downs or machine rows even did/could. Same w/ leg work...while back squats ar a staple for me, for size I have found Plyos and static jumps w/ DB's to give more size, sprints as well.

I wonder why this is not the case for arms...
 
al420 said:
I think we grow all over if we grow at all. Especially for those who don;t already have massive physiques...

I grow best doing dynamic work - fast pulls seem to blow my back and traps up compared to lat pull downs or machine rows even did/could. Same w/ leg work...while back squats ar a staple for me, for size I have found Plyos and static jumps w/ DB's to give more size, sprints as well.

I wonder why this is not the case for arms...

I get the feeling you're naturally strong (not that you haven't worked on it but you know what I mean) which means you probably have a lot of type II fibers which will react favorably to those kinds of movements. If you wanted to build arms there are things that you can do but they may actually work against your other lifts. Then again, how much do biceps really come into play in the power moves?
 
Nelson Montana said:
Then again, how much do biceps really come into play in the power moves?

Not much, they mostly stabilize.

The most growth i've seen on my biceps is from isolated curls.

Right now i'm curling 52.5 lb db's for 6 reps . . isolated on preacher curl.

That's pretty damn good if you ask me.
 
Nelson Montana said:
If you wanted to build arms there are things that you can do but they may actually work against your other lifts. Then again, how much do biceps really come into play in the power moves?

This is paramount info for neewbs. IMO, if you people don;t already freak-out about how big you are then trying to 'hit the guns' is a waste of time. Anything that takes away from ones ability to add weight to the bar on the main lifts is not a great idea.

Now, once your reppin' BW on bench, maybe 2x BW on Deads and squats, then you already have big muscles.... if you wish to 'shape' them at this point it will work better, and will seem easier.

My biceps seemt o grow a the same pace as my calfs - both are 18", and while that is not big by BB standards, they seem bigger than everyone I encounter in my life - gym included. I know the typicall 'board rat' has 21" internet guns...I can;t compete w/ them w/out my sythenol...lol

Biceps are just along for the ride... and while it may be the ride of a lfetime, I'm sure they get bored. Doing some Iso work is fine, but CNS addaptation comes from overload, IMO, and thus heavy pulling seems to be the best for arm growth....
 
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