Hrt

[ironcheif1984]

Bad idea to do a low, "maintenance" dosage in your case... think about it... even 100mg of (exogenous) test will shut down the body's own production of natural test. Now given the assumption that you're healthy, that your natural test levels are "normal", and 100mg/wk is generally the dosage prescribed as a substitute to what the body produces naturally per week (roughly), why would you shut down your natural test for roughly the same amount of exogenous test?

If you're going to cycle, then CYCLE.... I'm not saying to run a crazy dosage of test, especially since this would be your first time....but a healthy man running an HRT dosage of test is just not worth the shutdown, sides, etc.

This make pretty good sence to me now i never even thought about it like this. Yes i am healthy imo i dont have anything wrong with me and my diet is clean. Ok i am just going to do this.

Sustanon 250 @ 250 mgs ew for 10 wks @ 2 shots a wk
Along with Nolvadex through out the cycle to keep any unwanted side oh i am going to run the Nolvadex @ 20mgs eod do you guys think this will be to much or not.

And for my pct theropy and will continue to use the Nolvadex and two wks after my last shot i will start with my Dermacrine Sustain how does this look.

 

[xrsist]

looks fine bro as long as you have your diet dialled in and train harder than ever before, no need to run the nolva thru out your cycle unless you start seeing sides (which i doubt you will at that dose) but if thats the case grab an AI, a much better choice than nolva for gyno sides imo

 

[hooligan2004]

i noticed that when i did my very first cycle i was all afraid of people thinking holy shit hes on steroids, but man its not like you pop a needle in your ass and wake up jay cutler the next day, dont fret it bro commit to a cycle and grow ignore the comments they envy you feed on that

 

[Nelson Montana]

its used here as hrt, one 250 shot every 2-3 weeks

Good for the Aussies, at least they're being open minded. Problem is, Sus gives a huge kick up front do it isn't a very rational HRT. Within minutes your T can be up to 6000ngs. And after 3 weeks, you'd be on the low side. A half dose one a week would make more sense. Again, sus is a good idea that doesn't pan out as very practical, but I must say I have a fondness for it

 

[702daswoll1]

i noticed that when i did my very first cycle i was all afraid of people thinking holy shit hes on steroids, but man its not like you pop a needle in your ass and wake up jay cutler the next day, dont fret it bro commit to a cycle and grow ignore the comments they envy you feed on that

If he does his cycle correctly it may be obvious to some that he is on lets not deny that. I just started my boy on his first run and saw him for the first time in 2 weeks (he has been on for about 3 weeks) and I was astounded at how much weight and size he has gained!

 

[Varga]

This make pretty good sence to me now i never even thought about it like this. Yes i am healthy imo i dont have anything wrong with me and my diet is clean. Ok i am just going to do this.

Sustanon 250 @ 250 mgs ew for 10 wks @ 2 shots a wk
Along with Nolvadex through out the cycle to keep any unwanted side oh i am going to run the Nolvadex @ 20mgs eod do you guys think this will be to much or not.

And for my PCT - post cycle therapy - theropy and will continue to use the Nolvadex and two wks after my last shot i will start with my Dermacrine Sustain how does this look.

Nolvadex will not help with the bloat that much it helps with gyno issues though.
Best course to prevent any sides that you talking about is to take arimidex at .25mg-.5mg EOD or E2D or even 2x per week depending how sensitive you are with estro
Keep nolva if niples get itchy

 

[jagerbombme]

Nolvadex will not help with the bloat that much it helps with gynecomastia issues though.
Best course to prevent any sides that you talking about is to take arimidex at .25mg-.5mg EOD or E2D or even 2x per week depending how sensitive you are with estro
Keep Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - if niples get itchy

good, that's what i was gonna say. nolva only blocks estro action at your pit gland which may prevent you from shutting down as much, however it's notgonna help bloat and sus promotes bloat and promotes acne more than other tests i know. need adex or aroma bro.

 

[yankees5677]

So i was sitting at work i thinking. So i thought that i would ask the good folks on the EF board. If i was to take just 100mg a week of sustanon as if i was on HRT do you think i would still see some decent gains or no. Considering that i have not been on cycle yet. And i dont want to get so huge so fast to the point where the guys start asking questions at my work. They already fuck around and say that i am taking steroids and it pisses me off. I just play stupid and act like i dont know shit about steroids except for what i see on the news and leave it at that. just a question i thought i would ask. I do want to start a cycle in March and be done in June with PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - and everything. All i was going to do for my first cycle was Sustanon @ 250mg ew for 10 wks. I just didnt was to get to big to fast seeing that i have never been on before. bla bla bla i am ranting i know

My first cycle...
100mgs test per week
500 iu HCG twice a week
1 iu GH everyday
Did that for 3 months and gained 18 pounds and got whole lot stonger!

 

[ironcheif1984]

Wow thanks for all the reply's to this everyone i appreciate everyone's input and i am soaking it up like a sponge. Ok so im not worried about someone seeing me get to big. With 250mgs of sustanon ew for ten wks i think i would only gain like 15 lbs but who really knows about that i cant say for certain i have never even cycled yet so. But anyways i dont want to breakout really bad my face has broken out a little bit on my forhead just from taking a prohormone. so i dont know if i am gonna get broken out really bad taking aas. And sustanon from what some of you are saying will make me break out more then others would. So now i guess my question is should i just go with a different test such as test e or c which one is better i know i have seen people say that they are really close so get what ever one is cheaper i guess but as far as bloating and acne how is the test e or c. I will get a some arimidex to have on hand as well as the nolvadex and as far as the doseage on the test e or c i think i would only run either one of those at 200mgs ew for ten wks if i was get either one of those. Is test e or c usually 100mg/ml just wondering thanks again everyone

Ironcheif

 

[access]

Run either or Test C or Test E. Start at 250mgs/week and run it for 10-12 weeks. Commencing with a single ester test is probably better than Sus anyway.

Acne on cycle is most likely inevitable to some extent. Do your best to keep clean and use some anti-bacterial soaps. As a last resort speak to your doctor about a script or get hold of some tetracycline which is succesfully used to treat acne. As for prohormones they give you for the most part all of the sides with little benefit compared to AAS to give them away.

Arimidex on hand for cycle is good and then Nolva and HCG for PCT. Demacrine is also a good option to include for PCT.