HRT at 24

[asianlover]

well, i found out a few months ago that i have a pituitary tumor which is causing my test levels to be very low. i think it was like 270 or somthing like that. pretty close to the lowest range, but way to low for a 24 year old. anyway, the doc is probable going to put me on HRT, i have one more blood test to take first. if for some reason he doesn't i've decieded to just do it myself. i was just wondering whats a normal HRT dose? if it's low enough can i do without the anti e's?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Do what your doctor tells you.

 

[asianlover]

well if my levels are still low and he doesn't want to put me on HRT i am doing it myself. im tired of feeling like shit and being tired all the time. its not like i am doing this because i just want to stay on or somthing. i haven't even done a cycle in 1.5 yrs or even lifted a weight in 6 months.

 

[eddymerckx]

^^agree with nelson, you could have any number of types that cause any number of things that would give you a low natty test level.

and if you don't like the doc's opinion--get a second or third one before you self medicate--it could really hurt you bro, be careful.

From www.pituitary.org

A pituitary tumor is an abnormal growth of pituitary cells. Pituitary tumors can either be nonfunctional (that is they do not secrete hormones) or produce specific hormones, such as prolactin (causing infertility, decreased libido, and osteoporosis), growth hormone (causing acromegaly), ACTH (causing Cushing's), TSH (causing hypothyroidism), or be nonfunctional (that is they do not produce hormones). These tumors behave according to their cell of origin and are named for the specific cell type affected. For example, if a tumor originates in a prolactin producing cell, the patient develops a prolactinoma-a prolactin secreting pituitary tumor that is common and usually treatable. High prolactin levels suppress production of the pituitary hormones (luteinizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormone) that stimulate production of estrogen or testosterone. Men with these tumors have low testosterone levels and lose their sex drive and eventually their masculine characteristics-hair, muscle, erections, and ability to produce sperm. Women with prolactin producing tumors often do not ovulate, experience low estrogen levels, and cease having menstrual periods. In both cases, patients with low sex hormones develop osteoporosis. It is important to remember that most pituitary tumors are benign and cancer is very rare. They have variable patterns of growth and affect different people in vastly different ways. Some are small and incidental, while others are small but cause hormone excess. Others may be rapidly growing mass lesions.

 

[asianlover]

^^agree with nelson, you could have any number of types that cause any number of things that would give you a low natty test level.

From www.pituitary.org

A pituitary tumor is an abnormal growth of pituitary cells. Pituitary tumors can either be nonfunctional (that is they do not secrete hormones) or produce specific hormones, such as prolactin (causing infertility, decreased libido, and osteoporosis), growth hormone (causing acromegaly), ACTH (causing Cushing's), TSH (causing hypothyroidism), or be nonfunctional (that is they do not produce hormones). These tumors behave according to their cell of origin and are named for the specific cell type affected. For example, if a tumor originates in a prolactin producing cell, the patient develops a prolactinoma-a prolactin secreting pituitary tumor that is common and usually treatable. High prolactin levels suppress production of the pituitary hormones (luteinizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormone) that stimulate production of estrogen or testosterone. Men with these tumors have low testosterone levels and lose their sex drive and eventually their masculine characteristics-hair, muscle, erections, and ability to produce sperm. Women with prolactin producing tumors often do not ovulate, experience low estrogen levels, and cease having menstrual periods. In both cases, patients with low sex hormones develop osteoporosis. It is important to remember that most pituitary tumors are benign and cancer is very rare. They have variable patterns of growth and affect different people in vastly different ways. Some are small and incidental, while others are small but cause hormone excess. Others may be rapidly growing mass lesions.

yea man, i know all that allready, but thanks anyway. his only concern was me having to stay on forever and only being 24. but thats just not something i care about.

 

[eddymerckx]

before you do any hrt, you may want to consider banking some swimmers--may be the best few bucks you ever spend in case you want kids down the road.

i woud still seek a second opinion as to possible treatments--best of luck to you and i hope it works out

 

[theslime]

before you do any hrt, you may want to consider banking some swimmers--may be the best few bucks you ever spend in case you want kids down the road.

Why do you say that? Its the second time i see you write something like aas use causes permanent infertility while its been shown to cause temporary infertility. If you get treated with hcg and hmg, you will get the girl pregnant. It might take a few months but it will work. Ulter used to discuss these topics...You can probably search it. That or pubmed. There is just enough scary steroid rumors running around without needing to start new ones. No disrespect intended.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

before you do any hrt, you may want to consider banking some swimmers--may be the best few bucks you ever spend in case you want kids down the road.

i woud still seek a second opinion as to possible treatments--best of luck to you and i hope it works out

Agreed money well spent .
And get a second opinion for advice .

Brad.

 

[eddymerckx]

Why do you say that? Its the second time i see you write something like anabolic androgenic steroids use causes permanent infertility while its been shown to cause temporary infertility. If you get treated with HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and hmg, you will get the girl pregnant. It might take a few months but it will work. Ulter used to discuss these topics...You can probably search it. That or pubmed. There is just enough scary steroid rumors running around without needing to start new ones. No disrespect intended.

you need to read what is going one here--sterility caused by gear is generally reversible--once you are off the gear and can take >1 year not just a few months. Here, the guy is considering perm hrt--which mean is htpa will shut down not to mention the complication caused by the tumor which could also cause perm sterility.

while plenty of guys are still fertile on gear, just as many are not and is dependent on so many other factors.----

so for you to offer the blanket statement that it can be fixed with some hcg and hmg in a couple of months later you are offering advice that may or may not be the case and could cause heartache down the road, whereas my advice is specific to this bro and has no downside whatsoever--except may the cost, but what is a few hundred dollars for piece of mind.

 

[theslime]

you need to read what is going one here--sterility caused by gear is generally reversible--once you are off the gear and can take >1 year not just a few months. Here, the guy is considering perm hrt--which mean is htpa will shut down not to mention the complication caused by the tumor which could also cause perm sterility.

while plenty of guys are still fertile on gear, just as many are not and is dependent on so many other factors.----

so for you to offer the blanket statement that it can be fixed with some HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and hmg in a couple of months later you are offering advice that may or may not be the case and could cause heartache down the road, whereas my advice is specific to this bro and has no downside whatsoever--except may the cost, but what is a few hundred dollars for piece of mind.

Like I said im only responding because its the second time you allude to permanent infertility and dont want people confuse. Writing wills, freezing sperm, getting a lawyer, etc are all possibilities to consider before starting long term use of steroids. But even for users of ten years or more, there is successful therapies for getting sperm count high enough for pregnancy. There are even possibilities while on HRT. Just ask a specialist.