How To Choose the Right HRT Clinic

[pbhardbody]

Since I get so many PMs from people asking me the benefits of using an HRT Clinic versus an underground lab, and how to reach my friend that works at the HRT Clinic I use, I thought why not make one thread where I can put up info about HRT Clinics and my experiences over the 4 - 5 years that I've used them. In that 4 - 5 years I've used 3 different Clinics.

So here goes.

1. Location - You do NOT have to have an HRT Clinic near you to be able to use an HRT Clinic for Testosterone Replacement Therapy and/or Hormone Replacement Therapy (TRT/HRT). The HRT Clinic that my friend works at is located in south FL. However, he has patients all over the United States. They do not service patients in NY or NJ.

2. How It Works - By using an HRT Clinic, you provide yourself with the assurance that you are being monitored by the Clinic's Medical Staff. All HRT Clinics have a doctor on staff. Most also have either a Nurse Practioner or a Physicians Assistant on staff as well.

Every HRT Clinic I've ever been a patient at requires that you are at least 30 years old to be a patient.

Everything is done based on your bodies specific needs as shown by the bloodwork that the Clinic has done.

If you don't have recent bloodwork your Patient Care Coordinator, at the Clinic, will set everything up so that you can go to a LabCorp office that is close to you, and have your bloodwork done.

The Clinic requires that you have a recent "basic" physical - ie height/weight, blood pressure, heart rate, etc.

They will help you with finding a health clinic in your area that does basic physicals so that you can get right in, generally without an appointment.

The last detail is that you have to complete a Medical History form at the Clinics website.

Your Patient Care Coordinator builds a medical file that contains the bloodwork, physical, and Medical History.

This file is given to the Medical Staff so that they can make an analysis of it, and make recommendations for your TRT/HRT.

Once done, the Medical Staff gives your file back to your Patient Care Coordinator, who then contacts you and goes over your bloodwork levels, as well as the recommended therapy.

You pay for your prescription, and they have the meds overnighted direct from the pharmacy to your door.

3. Service - This is the # 1 criteria I recommend anyone use when selecting an HRT Clinic. And I'll even take that a step further... I don't think you can base your selection on the service you get just from the Clinic.

What I've found is that you can get different levels of service from different people within the same Clinic.

Here's what I mean:

It's really important who your Patient Care Coordinator at the clinic is and the quality of service they provide. They are the person who will work with you on everything from having a question about your prescription, to issues with a shipment, if you ever have one. So you really have to go with someone who works to provide you with a high level of great service.

Here's an example of what happened to me: A few years back I was with a different clinic than I'm at now. My Patient Care Coordinator moved out of the area and quit working there, and so I got reassigned to a different Patient Care Coordinator.

I ended up with a completely different level of service, at the exact same company, by just being with a different Patient Care Coordinator. It wasn't a good situation.

So IMO the best thing to do is to go with a Clinic based on a recommendation of the Patient Care Coordinator if you can. This enables you to make a decision based on the reputation of the Coordinator instead of just the Clinic.

4. Cost - I'm always looking for the best prices I can get. What I've learned is that the prices will vary widely from one clinic to another. I've referred several people to my Patient Care Coordinator. Every single time he has saved the referral money over what they were paying at their last HRT Clinic. One time his prices were 25% less than the other Clinic!

My Patient Care Coordinator has told me that a basic Testosterone Cypionate therapy costs about $60 - $75 per month. So prescribed therapy is way cheaper than most people expect it to be.

Ok that's good for now. In a few days I'll post some more information.

If you have any questions, post them, or send me a PM. If I don't know the answer, I'll get in touch with my Patient Care Coordinator and ask him, or I can put you in direct contact with him.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I'd circumvent the whole thing and just find a doc to write you a script.

 

[pbhardbody]

I'd circumvent the whole thing and just find a doc to write you a script.

Why would you go to a doc who usually just has a very general knowledge, and usually only has testosterone available versus an HRT Clinic whose doc specializes in TRT/HRT, and they have a wide variety of products available?

 

[busdriver320]

My experience with a South Florida HRT "clinic", was as pb mentioned, except that the "patient care coordinator" was basically a sales person, the medical exam was done off a form downloaded from the internet that said you were still alive, blood work was real but cost $250 (the clinic took a cut), the consult was $400, and the meds, 10 week supply of Test C and Deca and PCT was $990. I called and talked to a doc once during the 10 weeks. The cycle worked great, but I figure I paid more than double what doing my own blood work ($90), some extensive research on Elite and TSC (membership fee) and the AS and PCT ($450).
BTW my sales person (paitent care coordinator) called later and said that my doctor was having legal problems, but he's working with someone else now. Thanks but no thanks

 

[theemperor]

My experience with a South Florida HRT "clinic", was as pb mentioned, except that the "patient care coordinator" was basically a sales person, the medical exam was done off a form downloaded from the internet that said you were still alive, blood work was real but cost $250 (the clinic took a cut), the consult was $400, and the meds, 10 week supply of Test C and Deca and PCT was $990. I called and talked to a doc once during the 10 weeks. The cycle worked great, but I figure I paid more than double what doing my own blood work ($90), some extensive research on Elite and TSC (membership fee) and the AS and PCT ($450).
BTW my sales person (paitent care coordinator) called later and said that my doctor was having legal problems, but he's working with someone else now. Thanks but no thanks

Talk aboutg a ripoff with 10 week supply for $990?? Damn!! Clinics are out to make a "premium" on their end, and they will be more thsn happy to accomadate anyone. South forida clinics are abundant, yet I have many questions in them. I pay $65 a vial of Test Cypionate at walgreens and get a 6 month supply for around $260 or so.

 

[pbhardbody]

This goes right to my point. The key isnt merely which clinic to use. As I said in my original post, your Patient Care Coordinator will be the one who will have more control over what your overall experience is.

Notice that busdriver320 said that his therapy cost $990 for test cyp, deca, and PCT. Then he went further to say that his PCT was $450. So when we break it down that would mean $440 for ten weeks of test cyp, and based on their normal prescription ratio of half as much deca as test, that would mean 20 weeks of deca. I think the price is still too high, but it does put it into a little better perspective when all things are considered.

That goes to my point # 4 Cost above - prices can vary considerably. I've referred several people to my Patient Care Coordinator. Every single time he has saved them money over what they were paying at their last HRT Clinic. One time his prices were 25% less than the other Clinic!

My Patient Care Coordinator has told me that a basic testosterone Cypionate therapy costs about $60 - $75 per month. So that is way cheaper than busdriver320s experience.

Just like when purchasing gear from an UGL, you have to do your homework. But by getting doctor prescribed therapy, you eliminate the legality issues, as well as not having to worry that your product is counterfeit, like you have to with a UGL.

 

[Zyglamail]

That goes to my point # 4 Cost above - prices can vary considerably.

It really is crazy to see the price variations from clinic to clinic. Now that I am officially an old duffer ive been shopping around quite a bit and am baffled at the differences in price. One of the problems is few will even give you a ballpark on costs up front so it can make price shopping a bit tricky.

 

[pbhardbody]

It really is crazy to see the price variations from clinic to clinic. Now that I am officially an old duffer ive been shopping around quite a bit and am baffled at the differences in price. One of the problems is few will even give you a ballpark on costs up front so it can make price shopping a bit tricky.

I found the same thing - they didnt want to tell you prices up front. Have to wonder about a company that won't tell you the cost of their product ahead of time.

That's one reason I went with the guy I did. He was more than willing to tell me prices of products before I became a patient.

 

[pbhardbody]

I've been getting quite a few PMs from people asking me how low their testosterone levels have to be to qualify
for therapy through an HRT Clinic. So I contacted my Patient Care Coordinator and asked.

Here is what he said:

"A person who wants hormone replacement therapy does not have to be below the bottom end of the range
to qualify for therapy. For example, a 42 year old male: The testosterone range is 280 - 800. This
does not mean that you have to be below 280 to qualify for therapy. Overall physical health is taken
into account, but if the person is suffering from symptoms of Adult Hormone Deficiency, and his
bloodwork confirms that he is somewhere below the top end of the range, he is generally an eligible
candidate for therapy.

Our Medical Staff would determine the protocol (dosing and frequency of injections) based on
where the initial testosterone level falls in the range."

I hope this is helpful to those who had that question.

 

[pbhardbody]

Was talking to my Patient Care Coordinator this morning and he told me that he would be glad to answer any specific questions that anyone has regarding TRT/HRT, how it all works, how to get started, etc.

So post your questions in this thread, and I will get them to him, then I'll post up his answers for all to see. If you feel your question is too personal to post out in the open, PM it to me and I'll get it to him for you, or PM me and I'll put you in direct contact with him.

 

[Power36]

I have friends who use a HRT clinic much like what is being described....I used them for a while too but now have a great doc local I can see personally and although he wont give me Deca, Var, or Winny, I get scripts i need for the foundational HRT....a few pros about the HRT clinic my friends still use, one they wanted to stay totally legal...so even if those places seem shady and working in the grey, my boys are legal....#2, my buddies wanted to hit it as hard as they could, and the chances of shopping around local doctors trying to find one even to do HRT can be a tricky pain in the ass, and then you might go through the whole gel or cream thing....this clinic based on bloodwork, will give the guys 200-400mg a week of Test E, plus 200-300mg week of Deca, and 50mg Var daily for 45 days of each 10 weeks...and HCG and Arimidex...so its one stop shopping for legit products from a legit US compounding pharmacy, and as far as I know technically "legal"....they like that for the security of their job if it ever came up, and for their better halves not to be all pissed off at them.....I think the ballpark price for Test, Deca, Arimidex, HCG, is $700 for 10 weeks....I dont know if my buddies read up on sites like this, but Ive told them to chill as far as planning to run 400mg Test and 300mg Deca non stop year round, and to look into blasting or cruising...but Im still trying to figure this stuff out so I cant tell them exactly what to do, but to not just run with the high dose HRT stuff, because obviously the more they use the more they have to go back to order from the HRT place so the more money will be made....

So for some, they will pay the higher prices for legality, and for getting higher doses then what a local doctor will give, if they can even find a local doctor to do HRT...and they get options of Winny, Deca, and Var...if im not mistaken GH too but its so expensive its insane!

 

[Zyglamail]

So for some, they will pay the higher prices for legality, and for getting higher doses then what a local doctor will give, if they can even find a local doctor to do HRT...and they get options of Winny, Deca, and Var...if im not mistaken GH too but its so expensive its insane!

The way I look at it if you get a good trt doc you will be able to do multiple weekly pokes if you want resulting in more consistent levels. The time savings in not having to deal with doc after doc can also affect the bottom line as you mentioned but one thing people also dont have to worry about is getting scammed or a package intercepted. Legality of course is huge but if you get 1 on 5 packs seized it can really throw off you plans, especially if your just cruising on trt doses.

If your goal is really trt, then the extra price (which isnt too significant if ya find a good doc) is worth it for all the above reasons.

 

[Power36]

The way I look at it if you get a good trt doc you will be able to do multiple weekly pokes if you want resulting in more consistent levels. The time savings in not having to deal with doc after doc can also affect the bottom line as you mentioned but one thing people also dont have to worry about is getting scammed or a package intercepted. Legality of course is huge but if you get 1 on 5 packs seized it can really throw off you plans, especially if your just cruising on trt doses.

If your goal is really trt, then the extra price (which isnt too significant if ya find a good doc) is worth it for all the above reasons.

Amen, another good friend just contacted me today and stared with the same clinic...an hour phone call discussing his medical history, goals, desires, health issues, symptoms....everyone I know who uses this guy loves him....they sent a package of labs to your house and use your zip to find a doc near you, take the box of whatever labs are in it and the office they send you to knows what to do as far as getting all the blood or other samples of whatnot....do the labs...call you back, overnight delivery the next day is all your gear, from your basic T, to the Deca or Var, an AI, HCG, all the pins you need, all in one neat little box sent overnight to your door from the pharmacy....for professional guys I deal with, they will never go illegal....whether its worrying about is it real, to will they get busted, to piece mealing stuff from different sources, and to justify it to wives and girlfriends....

 

[1500]

I've had my CC info stolen twice now using a fucking HRT clinic in FL. If it happens again, I'm fucking driving down there and kicking some ass

 

[Zyglamail]

I've had my CC info stolen twice now using a fucking HRT clinic in FL. If it happens again, I'm fucking driving down there and kicking some ass

No shit? That sucks!

 

[1500]

No shit? That sucks!

yeah bro. it was a real pain in the ass. bunch of charges i had to fight. The second time, i was really pissed

 

[Power36]

Oh gosh sorry to hear that.....the clinic I use has my CC on file and no issues....wonderful customer service like if a package is late or what not they are on the phone calling you, emailing you, trying to resolve any issues....super nice folks too....but yea I guess the first time you go with anyone, its shooting in the dark risk.

 

[CheapPinz]

I can understand why a guy would want just the script...so many HRTs are scams. sure they will give you the product, but they will charge an incredible amount of money for it. Instead of focusing on bodybuilders, the feds should go after the corruption in these clinics to protect hard working people from getting raked over the coals. I really don't see why this hasnt become the new public enemy number one, because we all know the govt prioritizes their efforts on whatever can give them the most forfeitures and financial gain. I wish all primary care doctors would get more well versed in all types of treatments, HRT included. I believe a nonexistent sex drive for either man or woman is a treatable problem, although this world only allows for coverage of male functions, and a lot of age related illnesses could be avoided or certainly delayed with the advancements in hrt. Lets hope they stop demonizing anti-aging some day.

 

[pbhardbody]

Oh gosh sorry to hear that.....the clinic I use has my CC on file and no issues....wonderful customer service like if a package is late or what not they are on the phone calling you, emailing you, trying to resolve any issues....super nice folks too....but yea I guess the first time you go with anyone, its shooting in the dark risk.

This has been my experience too. My guy has my information on file, and Ive had no issues. If there's ever been a problem with a shipment (once) he was on the phone to me explaining what happened before I even realized there was a problem!

 

[pbhardbody]

I can understand why a guy would want just the script...so many HRTs are scams. sure they will give you the product, but they will charge an incredible amount of money for it. Instead of focusing on bodybuilders, the feds should go after the corruption in these clinics to protect hard working people from getting raked over the coals. I really don't see why this hasnt become the new public enemy number one, because we all know the govt prioritizes their efforts on whatever can give them the most forfeitures and financial gain. I wish all primary care doctors would get more well versed in all types of treatments, HRT included. I believe a nonexistent sex drive for either man or woman is a treatable problem, although this world only allows for coverage of male functions, and a lot of age related illnesses could be avoided or certainly delayed with the advancements in hrt. Lets hope they stop demonizing anti-aging some day.

I would agree that anti-aging has been demonized. However, I think that attitude is changing... slowly... but still changing.

There are several very famous people, with a large audience, who are talking about anti-aging and hormone therapy. Oprah, Dr Oz, Dr Phil, and Suzanne Somers all talk and/or have written books on the topic.

With this happening, it is making the topic more mainstream. More people know what HRT is now, than ever.

Naturally our society fears the unknown. Until about a year and a half ago, HRT was unknown to the masses. Dont get me wrong - it is still not there yet... but as long as these people with large audiences keep talking about it, it will cause it to be accepted in society instead of frowned upon.

 

[markmark]

Any of these clinics you guys are talking about Spectrum in Florida? I just came on board and yes its expensive but legal and clean pharmaceutical gear. Just does two reasons is worth the $$$.

 

[Power36]

No, but the one my friends use has pharmacies out of Florida, theyve had two different pharmacies both out of FL...totally legit, and pricing seems to be comparable to others on here with the same type service....its discreet for those not wanting to shop around going to multiple doctors hoping someone will understand and put you on HRT....and they will have more leeway in their dosages based on your labs and symptoms, and service is insane its easier than going to a pharmacy in town!

 

[pbhardbody]

Any of these clinics you guys are talking about Spectrum in Florida? I just came on board and yes its expensive but legal and clean pharmaceutical gear. Just does two reasons is worth the $$$.

No I've heard of Spectrum but don't use them.

For those who want to get in touch with him, my HRT Clinic Patient Care Coordinator's website is at HGH | Human Growth Hormone | Hormone Replacement Therapy | Testosterone Replacement Therapy | HCG Diet

 

[mongo23]

Thanks for being so helpful to all. There's a lot to learn.

 

[pbhardbody]

Thanks for being so helpful to all. There's a lot to learn.

Hopefully this thread has been helpful.

 

[Luckybuck]

Hopefully this thread has been helpful.

Does anyone know if or how much insurance will cover/ get involved with TRT/ HRT?

 

[Zyglamail]

Does anyone know if or how much insurance will cover/ get involved with TRT/ HRT?

TRT clinics dont take insurance. You will have to go through an endo or general practitioner if you want ins to cover it and then you will likely just have to worry about your copay.

 

[lorax]

what a helpful thread! Im feeling a little underwhelmed with my HRT place right now. Wish I found this sooner!

 

[Johnin AZ]

No I've heard of Spectrum but don't use them.

For those who want to get in touch with him, my HRT Clinic Patient Care Coordinator's website is at xxxxxx.com

Anyone know if this guy (the Patient care Coordinator) is still good? The OP hasn't posted in a long while?

 

[ColtSSBR]

Anyone know if this guy (the Patient care Coordinator) is still good? The OP hasn't posted in a long while?

Yes,
The Patient Care Coordinator at that site is a great guy.

 

[Power36]

curious....Ive used HRT clinics before, but now use my primary care doc as he is good......I told him about clinics prescribing nandrolone, anavar, and winstrol in addition to Test, HCG, and arimidex.....do you guys know how or why the HRT clinics get away with or justify winny, var, and deca?? inquiring minds wnat to know.....

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I've been reading this thread with interest, as I'm currently on Androgel here (Canada). I found this pretty useless after about 2 1/2 weeks. I had to go to a men's clinic to even get that, as my doctor would not address the low T issues or even re-prescribe once I had a script from the MC. I retest RSN and plan to push them for low dose injectables, but I don't expect to get good results. So I was considering going to a US clinic the next time I visit Vegas.

But I'm a little disappointed by what I read here. WTF is with a PCT after 10 weeks of treatment? If I wanted to do a mini cycle, I could do it for a lot less than the prices I've seen. It's good that they consider other things like AI, HGH and HCG in the US clinics. The MC here would be completely clueless about such shit, as they could not answer the basic questions I asked. They're primarily interested in pushing Cialis. (Aren't the 'generics' wonderful. ) LOL.

The problem is that I doubt a Canadian Pharmacy would honour a US script or that I could go back across the border with gear even if I had a prescription? Anyone whose done this please jump in. The other problem is getting the regular bloodwork done without breaking the bank. My GP used to be a team doctor in the US, so I'm surprised the dick won't prescribe T. I'll have to get his advice on a US clinic and send out a few emails.

TIA

 

[Johnin AZ]

I've been reading this thread with interest, as I'm currently on Androgel here (Canada). I found this pretty useless after about 2 1/2 weeks. I had to go to a men's clinic to even get that, as my doctor would not address the low T issues or even re-prescribe once I had a script from the MC. I retest RSN and plan to push them for low dose injectables, but I don't expect to get good results. So I was considering going to a US clinic the next time I visit Vegas.

But I'm a little disappointed by what I read here. WTF is with a PCT after 10 weeks of treatment? If I wanted to do a mini cycle, I could do it for a lot less than the prices I've seen. It's good that they consider other things like AI, HGH and HCG in the US clinics. The MC here would be completely clueless about such shit, as they could not answer the basic questions I asked. They're primarily interested in pushing Cialis. (Aren't the 'generics' wonderful. ) LOL.

The problem is that I doubt a Canadian Pharmacy would honour a US script or that I could go back across the border with gear even if I had a prescription? Anyone whose done this please jump in. The other problem is getting the regular bloodwork done without breaking the bank. My GP used to be a team doctor in the US, so I'm surprised the dick won't prescribe T. I'll have to get his advice on a US clinic and send out a few emails.

TIA

Makes me wonder...should I even bother with the Adex and HCG with my doses of Test-C and Deca??

 

[Zyglamail]

Makes me wonder...should I even bother with the Adex and HCG with my doses of Test-C and Deca??

You shouldnt be wondering, you should have labs to guide your decision about adex.

HCG is a whole different matter. ANY exo AAS will affect your normal test production which means less testicular activity. It only take 125mg/wk test to totally shut down natural production. HCG causes testes to produce test which gives you a 2 fold benefit. First it gives you an additional test boost, second it makes the testes work a couple times a week to reduce or prevent atrophy.

 

[Dragnet]

curious....Ive used HRT clinics before, but now use my primary care doc as he is good......I told him about clinics prescribing nandrolone, anavar, and winstrol in addition to Test, HCG, and arimidex.....do you guys know how or why the HRT clinics get away with or justify winny, var, and deca?? inquiring minds wnat to know.....

I was wondering the same thing?

 

[Dragnet]

curious....Ive used HRT clinics before, but now use my primary care doc as he is good......I told him about clinics prescribing nandrolone, anavar, and winstrol in addition to Test, HCG, and arimidex.....do you guys know how or why the HRT clinics get away with or justify winny, var, and deca?? inquiring minds wnat to know.....

I was wondering the same thing?

 

[Dragnet]

I am 41 year old male, 6-0, 206 lbs.........I've never lifted, I've only exercised, (push-ups, sit-ups, pull ups, jogging), etc

After my doctors physical late last year, my labs came back as low Testosterone, (in the mid 200's), n my doctor sent me to n endocrinologist, who prescribed Frotesta Gel.

After a month on that stuff I went to an HRT clinic in South Florida (Broward county), n my lab work showed my testosterone was down to "170" (after a month on the gel, it had actually decreased), Wow!

I had no effects of low testosterone, other than some weight gain n allot of loss in strength, (I felt really weak.......... really weak)!

The doctor at the HRT clinic prescribed a regimen of Testosterone cypionate 200/ml : 1cc / im – Once weekly, Anastrazole: one tablet twice weekly, n Human Chorionic Gonadotropin 50 units twice weekly

I started this past Sunday n was wondering if this is enough testosterone to gain strength, (currently I can only do "1" pull up)..it's pathetic, But that's how truly weak I feel/am?

What do you guys think?

With this regimen, about how long do you think it would take for me to gain some strength back..if any?

I currently work out at home, (push-ups, sit-ups, pull ups, jogging), etc
I spot myself with a chair n can get 2 sets of 10 pull ups completed, but on my own, I can only complete the "1"............PATHETIC!

 

[Power36]

200mg a week? My guess is hell yea especially if you have had low test for a long time....seeing you never trained nor are a workout guy, if you hit the gym hard with 200mg week Test I bet you get crazy strength increases and drop massive amounts of bodyfat IF you start training....

 

[Dragnet]

Well, technically it's only "1" cc OF 200 mg Testocerone Cypionate, which is like 100 mg.......
I don't inject till next Sunday again n have been working out 3 days a week.....I don't feel any strength gains at all......however it's only been not even 1 week n a single cc of T with 50 units of HCG....
Thanks for the reply......

 

[sanfrandan]

You can certainly make gains in strength with that dose. Test C is much more effective than topical. I was on Fortesta, and while OK, I am glad the doc switched me to injections. It took about 5-6 weeks for the shots to fully kick in. Have made great strength and size gains with test c.

 

[Dragnet]

I too did a month of Fortesta, n after a month my test went down almost 100 points........ I look forward to the coming months then n hope for some gains.....

 

[Power36]

1cc of 200mg Test? 200mg/mL? If so you are getting 200mg week...

Regardless if you are not someone who has been eating clean or working out, it might take a long while for you to "feel" like you are gaining strength....hopefully it just helps your energy and cognitive levels...

When I started HRT I cant truly remember when I felt gains, but it was months I know that for sure....I did not feel anything immediate....

 

[Dragnet]

Ok thanks, I look forward to feeling better/stronger......from round 170 T level. It can only get better...

 

[Power36]

If you are not eating clean, getting enough protein, healthy fats, staying hydrated, and getting restful sleep...improvements in those areas alone will boost your hormones, immune function and feeling better within a few weeks and give your body a better chance of using that Test...hang in there life gets better

 

[Dragnet]

I have been eating Healthier. (won't say clean)' but definitely healthier,,,,
I try n get a protein shake in daily n defffinitly drink one after every workout ...
My diet consists of snout 1200 calories daily n low to no saturated fats.....
Over the last few years I've dropped bout 60 lbs just watching what I eat, but have not been able to gain any sorta muscle tone n am wondering if it's due to my T level being SO low....went from bout 227 to 170......in bout a years time......n while on daily Frotesta Gel...

 

[Power36]

1200 calories??!?! a day total while training?? If you arent eating enough, not getting enough essential fats and protein, you can hurt your hormonal profile as well...you might need to bump up calories, protein, fish oils/cla and pay attention to sleep which is huge for homrones too

 

[Dragnet]

Yeah, am tryin to get a little more calories in via extra whey shakes as it's lots of protein....."... I get bout 7 hours of solid sleep.....
I had a conversation with a freind bout the testosterone cyp that am injecting n we had a difference in opinion...
It's a 10 mi vial of 200mg cyp....I was told to inject 1 ml a week........is 1 ml equal to 200mg's?
He says that 1ml is only equal to 100mg.....who's right?

 

[Power36]

Sounds like 1cc is 200mg..which is PLENTY even if your T is way low, for you to see results over the long haul

 

[Dragnet]

I've injected the T twice n 3 injections of HGC at 50 units each.....am on week 2 as of Sunday n was told to come in for blood work at 4 to 6 weeks so that they can then custom tailor the TRT for me....
Anyone here receiving more then 200mg a week for TRT? Or is this the max dose?
It's only been 2 shots, but I don't feel any improvement ....bout how long should it be before I start feeling this?

 

[Power36]

100mg week to 150mg week is more typical and standard....I get 200mg week but am a bigger guy naturally and prob could go 300mg I bet and still be normal for me....a few guys on here who are bigger too get 400mg week, however I think 200mg is PLENTY from sounds of it with you....

took me 3 or 4 months to feel anything, you need to be patient.....200mg is plenty in my opinionfor you to see and feel results but you gotta be patient and give it a few months...

 

[Power36]

Just an update guys, since someone PMed me about what HRT clinic I used....I havent used them in two years as I found an amazing integrative medicine MD who does hormoens and supplements....so now my scripts for test, hcg, and adex are a fraction of what they were from a HRT clinic. I realize what sucks for many of you is that you do not live in a large metro area finding a good doc might be difficult....Cali, Florida, Vegas, all places Ive heard of good docs....

Just be careful as I dont think customers could get in trouble, but the doctor and HRT clinic I was using all got locked up a year or two ago shortly after I was using them! I just found out last night by googling them. A new company took over but I forget name, but it seems that these companies run in the grey area as long as they can because $$ must be good, but then get shut down. Another pharmacy I used in Florida like 3 years ago when I started HRT, it got shut down and is all over news on a google search....so these places are rolling the dice...

IF you have low Test #s, AND can find a legit doc, you can get your stuff crazy cheap at any national brand pharmacy, and I hear Costco is cheap as dirt too with a script for Test....you just wont be able to get Var, Winny, Deca as easy which is what any HRT clinic I used was "cycling" with the HRT...which is people are precribing "cycles" its not HRT....its for life...

 

[sikcack]

can you PM me his info? I am interested, thanks

 

[HandsomeRob]

Anyone know an affordable doc in Miami?