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How sterile are you really....?

billdance

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Hooked up with a new chick...she's not on the pill...been doing the O'l pull out method...

I'm on (week 8) 400mg per week cyp, 200 mg per week eq. 2iu ed hgh..

I know we've all heard the Canada birth control theory/method as little as 200mg per week is supposed to be like upper 90% sterile... anyone beleive that?
 
the number is 85%. add duta and you are close to 95%.

except that percentage is best case---worst case the percentage is way lower
add hcg and you are at close to 0%


http://www.andrologyjournal.org/cgi/content/abstract/29/3/260

Published-Ahead-of-Print November 28, 2007, DOI:10.2164/jandrol.107.004226
Journal of Andrology, Vol. 29, No. 3, May/June 2008
Copyright © American Society of Andrology
DOI: 10.2164/jandrol.107.004226


Pharmacokinetics and Pharmacodynamics of Oral Testosterone Enanthate Plus Dutasteride for 4 Weeks in Normal Men: Implications for Male Hormonal Contraception
JOHN K. AMORY*,,, THOMAS F. KALHORN AND STEPHANIE T. PAGE*,,||
From the * Center for Research in Reproduction and Contraception, Division of General Internal Medicine, Department of Medicine and the Department of Medicinal Chemistry, || Divisions of Endocrinology, Metabolism and Nutrition, University of Washington School of Medicine, Seattle, Washington.

Correspondence to: Dr John K. Amory, University of Washington, Box 356429, 1959 NE Pacific St, Seattle, WA 98195 (e-mail: [email protected]).


Oral administration of testosterone enanthate (TE) and dutasteride increases serum testosterone and might be useful for male hormonal contraception. To ascertain the contraceptive potential of oral TE and dutasteride by determining the degree of gonadotropin suppression mediated by 4 weeks of oral TE plus dutasteride, 20 healthy young men were randomly assigned to 4 weeks of either 400 mg oral TE twice daily or 800 mg oral TE once daily in a double-blinded, controlled fashion at a single site. All men received 0.5 mg dutasteride daily. Blood for measurement of serum luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), testosterone, dihydrotesterone (DHT), and estradiol was obtained prior to treatment, weekly during treatment, and 1, 2, 4, 8, 12, 13, 14, 16, 20, and 24 hours after the morning dose on the last day of treatment. FSH was significantly suppressed throughout treatment with 800 mg TE once daily and after 4 weeks of treatment with 400 mg TE twice daily. LH was significantly suppressed after 2 weeks of treatment with 800 mg TE, but not with 400 mg TE. Serum DHT was suppressed and serum estradiol increased during treatment in both groups. High-density lipoprotein cholesterol was suppresed during treatment, but liver function tests, hematocrit, creatinine, mood, and sexual function were unaffected. The administration of 800 mg oral TE daily combined with dutasteride for 28 days significantly suppresses gonadotropins without untoward side effects and might have utility as part of a male hormonal contraceptive regimen.
 
Hmmm.....thanks.... I think I feel better about the pre-ejac...but still not sure if I'll "load er up like a shotgun"...haha...
 
Stryker1992 said:
800 mg's a day orally?


I know(???) they used gel caps--i am not sure if that is the same as IM as far as HPTA supression---i would like to see a study with long ester IM.
 
well if you want a kid, keep doing your pull out method and use your test... Believe me, many bro's have gotten kids this way.. Yes, it reduces the chances of getting a girl pregnant, but if you want a kid, keep doing this method and sooner or later you'll get one. For the love of all that is holy, put a f'n jimmy on and stay protected...

and besides, how unsatisfying it has to be to pull out and finish on her belly..man up bro and slap a condom on..and if she can't get on b-control and you're not responsible to have protected sex, we certainly don't want your kids clogging up the welfare system..
 
Between the test and pulling out (assuming you always get out 'in time') you should be fine... I'd take the combo of test and pulling out over a condom and staying in anytime
 
eddymerckx said:
the number is 85%. add duta and you are close to 95%.

except that percentage is best case---worst case the percentage is way lower
add hcg and you are at close to 0%

Im a little confused I Thought HCG is a good thing as far as swimmers go, is this what your saying?
 
bigoldbadassbob said:
when u pull out just make her swallow it, well thats if ur girl likes it as much as mine hahaha im so lucky!!

Sweet....!! I told mine that she cant get pregnant if I unload in her ASS...she just laughed...haha...
 
Doesnt matter if I got a 2 percent chance. I always wear a hat. I even pull out and fill the hat outside of the girl. I loves me some safe sex, so much so, I am wearing a condom right now. I would hate to slip and fall into some trick on the street. No kids for me.
 
billdance said:
Hooked up with a new chick...she's not on the pill...been doing the O'l pull out method...

I'm on (week 8) 400mg per week cyp, 200 mg per week eq. 2iu ed hgh..

I know we've all heard the Canada birth control theory/method as little as 200mg per week is supposed to be like upper 90% sterile... anyone beleive that?


Yeah tell that to 6 of my buddies that got their girls pregnant while on gear using that same method......unless your ready for a kid I wouldn't suggest chancing it. But thats my 2 cents. 2 of my buddies pay over $600 a month for child support.
 
sparetire said:
we certainly don't want your kids clogging up the welfare system..

Haha... nice... just caught this.... Or I can just pretend I am illegal and have the emregency room/taxes fit the bills....then when the kid turns 18 he/she can petition for my citizenship...haha... Ahhh mexico... I remember the good ol dayz of pre-load Sos bombz with that damn 18g harpoon....haha...
 
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