How much TEST will I be getting?

[XMAN.]

Ok, this is how it goes. My EX-Doc (dropped him like a mop because all he did was contradict himself all the time....no wonder why Ulter HATED him) had me taking 125mgs of Test Cyp every wednesday. Along with HCG at 300ius on Mondays and Tuesdays. Jack ass! All this did was jack up Estrogen, SHBG and Progesterone levels.

He wanted me to take HCG on Mondays and Tuesdays because he stated that by the 5th day (remember, my shots were on Wednesdays) is when Testosterone levels start to decline. So by adding in HCG on Mondays and Tuesdays, it would help spike my Test levels "until" I get my next shot boost of Test on Wednesday (the 7th day).

Anywhos! By doing this method of his (my dumb ex-doc). My test levels were at 875 and the reference range on the blood work said test.levels should be between 250-800. However! My E1, E2, progesterone and SHBG were all HIGH. All due to the HCG this dickhead had me taking.

I dropped the HCG for a few weeks. And my E1, E2, progesterone and SHBG began to drop. But my Test levels remained the same. Which means the HCG didn't help do JACK SHIT! All it did was more harm than good.

I want to increase my Test levels much higher so that I can get more muscle, harder and leaner. But it's just that every time I tend to go OVER 250mgs a week. My E levels go way HIGH!!! And as a result, my SHBG starts to go way HIGH as well. Which means I start to get bloated, fat, soft, moody, lose sex drive etc etc. Sure I can control all of this with anti-aroma. But what about my progesterone levels? Everytime I go OVER 250mgs of Test a week. My progesterone levels go THROUGH THE ROOF!!! And my primary physician (not this dick head doc I was speaking of earlier about) did tell me with HIGH progesterone levels, you decrease DHT conversion. And DHT is what makes us men be MEN! Without DHT, we get soft and weak and lose our minds and libido.


So my concerns are the following....

1- Should I keep injecting every 7th day? Or should I just take my shots every 5th day? Remember, doc did say that by the 5th day is when Test levels begin to decline little by little.

2- How the hell can I take more than 250mgs of Test a week WITHOUT increasing my progesterone levels?? Please! Please don't say to take dostinex! That is the stupidest I hear so many bros say! Dostinex ONLY lowers prolactin! Not progesterone! And I have blood work to confirm this stupidy that many bros say it does do. Just plain dumb!

first split ur dose and do it twice a week , every 3.5 days , for ex: Monday morning and Thursday evening , this way u'll get more stable levels of all sex hormones , no big spikes and valleys.
then if proviron is not controlling those estro. and prog. try adding some winny instead , like 1cc (50mg)per week split in 2 doses, 0.5cc twice a week (25mg each time with ur test shot) do that for a while like 8 weeks and switch back to proviron, this way it won't adapt to ur body.

 

[Smokescreen]

bump

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

Bro I would shoot 250mg sustanon once a week.

Between the 2 short esters and the 2 long esters you're gonna get insta test from the prop/phenyl prop and the 2 longer ester range from 9-10/14-17 days.

Using an aas calculator that shows you would be getting a peak of 57mgs free test on monday of week 6 with the levels decling to know less than 18mg on sunday.

So you'd have roughly 6x the normal level of test of a health male on monday and it gradually drops to double on sunday.

I actually ran this for a couple months once and it worked great. I never experienced any weird lows that some people say they get. Your levels flucuate, but they are always above normal range.

I didn't work out for the few months I did this and just did my physically active job and the last week of my final inject before coming off I went to the gym and I had maintained roughly 85% of my gym strength just from physical labor. I attribute this to having significantly higher than normal levels, but still not nearly as much as a typical cycle.

I also did not eat to gain and I was probably eating half the protein of when I consistently lift so I was pretty shocked to have retained most of my strength. I'm talking squat/bench and my job really didn't significantly develop those muscles.

I had a tiny bit of bloat and my blood pressure was a tad high, but at the time I didn't know about monitoring salt intake and I use to use an assload of salt daily.

I would bet a small dose of 25mg proviron ed with 1 sustanon 250 inject every week would have you looking and feeling good.

A more experienced bro might have a different opinion on this, but sustanon was actually designed for hrt at a dose schedule of once every 2 weeks I believe which technically would work, but about the middle of the second week your mgs per day of test would start getting pretty low like 4-6mg ed. The week of the sust shot would be great though.

Imo, that's why it's better to run it once a week.

If you are going to do hrt then I don't see anything wrong with running higher than normal levels of test. 1 sust a week is extremely moderate, but from a mgs pov is quite abit more than natural.

 

[Nelson Montana]

To put it simply, a mg of exogenous test is transferred to approximately 6 ngs of T. But there are lots of variables -- how well you convert it, if you're still producing natural test, and of course SHBG, which will decide how much stays bound.

So, unless you get a blood test, it's all speculative.

 

[chesty]

Basically, its a crap shoot

 

[Smokescreen]

Basically, its a crap shoot

Amen!

 

[Smokescreen]

I'm bumping up my Test dose now to 400mgs (Test Cyp a week). Question is...how should I take it to keep stable blood levels? 200mgs every 3rd day? 4th day? 5th day? Or should I just take all 400 every 5 day?

 

[Smokescreen]

Will add winny in the hopes that it will keep my progesterone down

 

[XMAN.]

I'm bumping up my Test dose now to 400mgs (Test Cyp a week). Question is...how should I take it to keep stable blood levels? 200mgs every 3rd day? 4th day? 5th day? Or should I just take all 400 every 5 day?

twice a week it's simpler , for ex: Monday morning & Thursday evening (200mg every 3.5 days)