How many of you can't run (cuz of pumps) on Winstrol, etc .. ?

[LoneTree]

I got it with tren.

 

[Dial_tone]

I get a debilitating calf pump while running even when i'm off. It's killing my plans to do a triathlon.

 

[wannabecut]

Reason track athletes have no problems using winny is twofold. One they dont take the dosages bodybuilders do- they use much less. Secondly they're running sprints that last 10 seconds or so. They're not trying to run on a treadmill for a half hour!

Me personally- I cant do cardio while on anything, the pumps in my calves and lower back are just too much. Although this time I want to try doing sprints of some sort

 

[michoncameoa]

bro im on a 50mg ed of win i run 5 miles at least 1x every week and 2or 3 everyday i feel intense pump in my calves but it dont stop me just a lil tighter grab the balls and squezze

 

[slopy]

ok this question might sound kinda of werid.. but how is sex while on winny?

a few of you are complaining about lower back pumps and such while on winny and i could see that being a problem during sex since sex is a decent cardio workout for the most part.

 

[Whiskey]

I can get a good mile maybe two in and that's it, but a buddy had me wear a backpack with about 10 lbs in it. That helped the back pump a lot I think. Only reason I can think of is that you have to use your abs more to keep upright. I don't know if that is why or not, but all I can think of

Whiskey

 

[marshabrady]

Hey I know I've been lurking a long time on these boards but I learn alot.
I just had to post this as my first post because my back and shin pumps are killing me! Here is my cycle:

Weeks 1-12: 500mg Karachi Sustanon ew (250mg every Sun & Thurs)
Weeks 1-4: 30mg BD Dbol ed
Weeks 9-12: (this is up in the air but I do have it on hand): 50mg BD Winny ed
Week 13: Clomid Therapy
***I am currently in 6th week so have been off Dbol for almost two weeks)
I have also been taking "CE2" Esterfied Creatine (very expensive powerful version) since start- what a mistake they are not helping my pumps at all.

Here is my problem- I have been off the Dbol for almost two weeks and my back and shins are still hurting from the pumps! OK I just read up some threads and I am going to drop my Esterfied creatine immediately. Here is my question and my theory:

I know that these pumps come from water retention. I would assume that estrogen also contributes to it. I have Nolvadex on hand but have had no symptoms of... whatever (don't like to think about it)... I didn't really want to use it but I'm desperate for a solution to my horrendous back/shin pumps and am thinking of throwing it in right now to reduce estrogen and hopefully help combat the water retention (bloating if you will)- Please good idea or bad idea??????

God they hurt like a bastard!!!! But I'm just on the sustanon now?

 

[marshabrady]

Oh sorry actually my Clomid Therapy will start after about three weeks of being off the Sustanon (about when long esters run out). I say the BD Winny is "up in the air" because if I can't find some way to alleviate these bad pumps I might just go with no Winny just Sustanon- damn I was really looking forward to them their so damn expensive!

 

[danymal04]

Whoever brought this back it is very old but I'll comment on it. When I was on winny it made my back/calv pumps to much to handle. I think the same thing is happening with var 50mgs ed. I can't be for sure. Like stated above, these track athletes use these compounds but at a much lower dose than bodybuilders would.

 

[jokerswild]

I will admit I have actually cried because of dealifting and dbols...