I can feel & see the effects from winny in a week. What dose are you running? How lean are you? I find 300mg stanz inj PW is good. Orals need a higher dose to be as effective.
LOL Thats some funny shit Bro Because oral winny is 17 alpha it is not destroyed during the first pass of the liver but it is still very liver toxic one of the most hepatoxic AAS drugs. Therefore it is better taken by injection which misses the first pass of the liver.
You need to be at least 9% bf to really see the "drying" effects of winstrol. I think this is the problem. I have never been a big fan of winstrol, strength gains weren't that great for me nor was the vascularity.
well bro seeing as ou have been working out for years and have don other cycles. I would not expect
big gains out of winny. You may have a well trained body and even aas wont give you huge ass gains.
Winny in no way is a big time strength or size aas though.