how long past expiration date is the stuff still good?

[rnch]

all right, call me what you will..........but this is a serious post.

i cleaned out the refrigerator last weekend; first time in.....4 or 5 years...found a fruit cake tin at the very bottom of the veggie crisper that i have been ignoring for a long time, beleiving it was the fruitcake from hell that keeps getting sent from one person to another.

after breaking loose the clear packing tape around the lid, i found enough sustanon, eq, winnie and aradimix (sp?) for a light cycle! swearin' to gaud, i forgot i had packed it in the tin.

the expiration dates are from like....3 1/2 years ago.

good to use? half strength? useless shiot? wadda ya'll think?

 

[SgtSlaughter]

you're funny bro.

well how's the consistancy look of the oils (and water if winny is liquid)?

If it was me i wouldn't risk it, btw...

 

[rnch]

i am NOT joking! why didn't i clean it out 2 years ago......

 

[SgtSlaughter]

cuz you're a dirty bastard, lol

 

[rnch]

actually, it really wasn't all that dirty, even after all this time....just got super bored this weekend. jeez..........gimme a break....this is the one out in the garage that i only use for soft drinks and occassional sam's club overflow purchases.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

how's the fruit cake lookin'?

 

[rnch]

the one i see in the mirror?

 

[rnch]

???

 

[GoldenDelicious]

water based stuff degrades very quickly. id discard anythign water based.

oil based and dry stuff, on the other hand, so long as theyve been kept cold and have not settled/caked (caked = when the solids in the suspension all settle in a cake at the bottom of the vial, and so compromise the formulation) technically should be discarded, but in reality, most likely have about 20% or so less active drug in them

expiry dates are assigned based on 10% of the drug degrading completely (ie how long it takes to get to 90% of what it says on the label) or the formulation is compromised (caking, rotting) or build up of a toxic byproduct of degradation beyond safe levels (this is the rarest one, usually, and imo is only really important in stuff like salicylates etc - stuff that goes funky if it gets old). expirys are also assigned on principle to stop people hoarding drugs for years.

given that most oil based suspensions made last a couple of years (if not longer), its logical to say "hey. if its been 4 years since it went off, then i should have a product that is 2x as bad as tolerable in a legit, within expiry product ie should be down 2x 10% of what it says on the label.

powdered preparations last the longest time, though degradation rates will vary.

look into how long the stuff spontaneously degrades, and make a choice. safety sam says throw it away. mr i dont give a toss would take a chance that it didnt degrade into something too toxic, and shoot up

cheerios

 

[proken]

seat of the glutes... I have some testen (cyp/250/2cc/per amp) that is 2 years past it's expo date. Had been doing 1g a week. Good gains, but curiouse about potentcy, upped it to 2g's a week and before the second week had to take nolva, definatly at it's full strength. Oil based, 1.5% alc as a preserve, came from India. second experiment was with sus, a full two years out of expo date. Same thing, hurt like hell, though it was not karachi, and bloated like a pig and strength through the roof. Oil seems to go far passed the exp date. I did do BD oral win, back when it was 50 mg a pill. Nothing. May have been fakes, but they worked wonders a year ago to jump start an oil cycle. HTH
Ironhorse.