How effective is Clomid alone for pct?

[Ulter]

I simply use HCG & Nolvadex,

Works fine.


Clomid makes me wig out

He's coming off nandrolone Bro. No nolva.

 

[galaxy]

Why cant nolvadex be used with deca? First time ive ever heard that. And arent nolvadex and clomid pretty much the same thing?

 

[Ulter]

No they are not the same. At all.

Nolva increases progesterone expression. Since Nandrolone is a progestin taking nolva will increase, not decrease, your chances of gyno. Where you been G? Get with the program Bro.

 

[galaxy]

Shouldnt be a problem as long as you wait for the esters to clear. I imagine the amount nolva increases prolactin is negligible tho?

 

[Ulter]

Did you read what he's using 600mg/wk? It'll be well over a month until that Deca clears.

 

[galaxy]

I read where he waited 3 weeks. I just cant imagine 3 weeks later the addition of some nolva would have any negative effect. It would be minute and hed be well below the 600plus mgs he did have running in him......That being said, i would use clomid also. I still beleive the pct laid out in WAR 1996 is perfect.

 

[Ulter]

No, no, no Bro. In three weeks he'll still have blood levels over 600mg. Have you ever seen a spreadsheet of blood levels from a long ester? They compound and three weeks after the last shot you will still have the same amount you shoot each week or more.

 

[glassman21]

I don't have any nolvadex anyway. I am going to run the 1500 iu's of HCG twice a week for two weeks along with the remaining Clomid I have (50 mg a day for the next 5 days) and take the Arimidex every other day both weeks.

Even though I took 600mg of Deca a week I never shut down sexually because I took 500mg of sust I guess. I don't feel like I lost much in my balls anyway but just want my test leveles to resume to maintain what I have gained. For the duration of the entire cycle I had sex like twice a day EVERY day and finshed with no problem. If that is not a problem is the HCG still necessary?

 

[Ulter]

Yes it's still a good idea. Just as a safety net.

 

[glassman21]

Add in 1cc of bactorsteric water to the hcg wafer. 15ius will equal 1500ius of hcg on a slin pin.

Its not a wafer...it's a powder in a vial (10,000 iu's). Is that a wafer? I'm not being a smart ass I just picture a wafer being a solid matter instead of the powder I have in a vial and want to be sure we are on the same page before I mix it and minister it.