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How do you know when you REALLY love someone?

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Kids don't count. We all love them enough to cut out our hearts. What was that defining moment when you KNEW I really, really love this person? :heart:
 
ballet gal said:
Kids don't count. We all love them enough to cut out our hearts. What was that defining moment when you KNEW I really, really love this person? :heart:
You don't. Love is a perception, not a fact.
 
love is fucking bullshit.

even if you feel love, it doesnt mean anything to the person your loving.

all that matters is respect, compatability, and not being a selfish jackass.

thats my opinion ion the matter
 
ballet gal said:
Kids don't count. We all love them enough to cut out our hearts. What was that defining moment when you KNEW I really, really love this person? :heart:

When I completely threw caution to the wind and stopped trying to hide everything I felt. When I stopped making choices meant to keep myself from getting hurt and started making choices based on the realization that I'd rather lose everything but know I gave it 100% than miss out because I was a chickenshit with my heart. Just happened once and things didn't work out obviously, but I don't regret it for a second.

Lotta cynics in this thread...lol
 
Can I get an AMEN from the congregation! Shit ya'll, come on now? You never had "that moment? I have and it was way after shaving Bitme's asshair (though that is a trying experience)
 
love is vulnerability......and in a way, sharing/giving your self esteem to another person.

when you love someone, the shields go down and it's basically open season on your soul.

better hope you picked the right person.

or else you end up like me (or jh1)
 
KillahBee said:
When I felt that last breath leave her body as my hands finally became loose around her neck

Erotic sensations tingle my spine
A dead body lying next to mine
Smooth blue black lips
I start salivating as we kiss
Mine forever this sweet death
I cannot forget your soft breaths
Panting excitedly with my hands around your neck

Shades are drawn
No one can see
What I've done
What's become of me
Here I stand
Above all that's been true
How I love
How I love to kill you




:cow:
 
nefertiti said:
When I completely threw caution to the wind and stopped trying to hide everything I felt. When I stopped making choices meant to keep myself from getting hurt and started making choices based on the realization that I'd rather lose everything but know I gave it 100% than miss out because I was a chickenshit with my heart. Just happened once and things didn't work out obviously, but I don't regret it for a second.

Lotta cynics in this thread...lol

I understand what you are saying but for a minute sit back and play the advocate on what you wrote. Everything in there is about you making a decision in your own mind. All those things could be brain washed into your mind using the right techniques so I have to honestly say that isn't LOVE, merely decisions to change you change the way you behave.
 
I am enjoying learning what love is with my Old Grump. Check back in 20 years or so and if we haven't killed each other, I am certain we will be able to enlighten you.

Till then it is all about LIKE and LUST. :)
 
Get your tissue, and your, waaaah factor because I'm about to share my soul. I'm adopted and have alot of abandonment issues. Stupid, but true. Biteme alleviated all that. 40 years of that. He loves me like your parents are supposed to.
 
ballet gal said:
Get your tissue, and your, waaaah factor because I'm about to share my soul. I'm adopted and have alot of abandonment issues. Stupid, but true. Biteme alleviated all that. 40 years of that. He loves me like your parents are supposed to.
that's really sweet. Ive experienced that before.

But does he ever get on your fucking nerves?
 
KillahBee said:
No it's not!!! lol, it's completely based on void-filling!!!
dude, everything we do in life is to fill a void or fulfill a need.

like when I feel a void in my tummy, i eat a cupcake. same thing.
 
On my fucking nerves? Hell yes; we fight every day and it's a good thing we live in the country because someone other than Texas folks would call the law!
 
ballet gal said:
On my fucking nerves? Hell yes; we fight every day and it's a good thing we live in the country because someone other than Texas folks would call the law!
oh shit. i dont like when my patience is tested like that.
 
I've cried over two girls in my life
and both times it was when I knew I "had" them
one I married
 
Smurfy said:
dude, everything we do in life is to fill a void or fulfill a need.

like when I feel a void in my tummy, i eat a cupcake. same thing.


Yeah, but eating a cupcake isn't quite a fucking lifetime commitment, now is it.

Well, for you it is
 
sfmonster said:
I understand what you are saying but for a minute sit back and play the advocate on what you wrote. Everything in there is about you making a decision in your own mind. All those things could be brain washed into your mind using the right techniques so I have to honestly say that isn't LOVE, merely decisions to change you change the way you behave.

You aren't quite getting what I meant. it wasn't the choices that defined the way i felt...it was the way I felt that led me to make the choices. And how I felt was most definitely love (just trust me on that). As I said...that's only happened to me once, but I've been in several pretty serious relationships that lasted over a year where I can't say I was ever in love.

I guess that's what I'm talking about anyway...the act of being IN love, which is what that first stage is when you are first realizing how you feel. The kind of love that lasts, and what goes with it, well that's another story entirely.
 
killah, you kill me. You make my doo dah dance. love your attitude.
 
KillahBee said:
Yeah, but eating a cupcake isn't quite a fucking lifetime commitment, now is it.

Well, for you it is
so lifetime commitments people make are to fill the void in their life?
crap, why didnt I think of thAt!
 
You dont choose a mate based on love... love is what happens along the way.

Why do people always seem to get defensive when this topic is brought up?

Friendship, mutual respect, kindness and geuinely LIKING your partner is what keeps people together. Lust is what brings you together and love is what you find along the way.

For me it isn't all that complicated.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
You dont choose a mate based on love... love is what happens along the way.

Why do people always seem to get defensive when this topic is brought up?

Friendship, mutual respect, kindness and geuinely LIKING your partner is what keeps people together. Lust is what brings you together and love is what you find along the way.

For me it isn't all that complicated.
I think I agree with you here.
 
ballet gal said:
Get your tissue, and your, waaaah factor because I'm about to share my soul. I'm adopted and have alot of abandonment issues. Stupid, but true. Biteme alleviated all that. 40 years of that. He loves me like your parents are supposed to.
wait, he loves you like your parents are supposed to? Is that before or after he blows his load on you?
 
"Had" them? Come on Spart. You bury people for a living. Your sentences begin with, psssst. I know a guy.
 
how gf's has bm had join elite? i'm glad my gf isn't this far up my ass as to join the same fucking websites as me.....
 
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ballet gal said:
Human, maybe you only enjoy animals up your ass.
i don't know anything about you. except that you're unattractive, as far as women go. you'd make a rather hot ape, though....
 
ballet gal said:
Kids don't count. We all love them enough to cut out our hearts. What was that defining moment when you KNEW I really, really love this person? :heart:
healother said:
I've met this girl online, and she's a Christian like me, a virgin like myself (and 27 and gorgeous which makes it all the more remarkable) and she is fun to talk to.

We hungout once, and she has a great sense of humor and is pretty laid back and I really like her. She is absolutely gorgeous too (i think i already said that). its rare that a woman as pretty as her wants to hangout with me.

She tells me about all these men online that want to date her, and how shes not looking for a relationship and wants friends, but if a relationship comes along then great.

But everytime she tells me about these guys that she hangs out with sometimes, it really stings and makes me feel bad they get to have her.

Last night she told me that a guy kissed her, that she didnt want to kiss him, but he put it on her, so she kissed him back for a few minutes. When she said a few minutes, i immediately thought she must have wanted to kiss him to a degree.
But when she told me that a guy kissed her, it hurt me really bad. I can't think straight the last couple days.

I want to tell her how i feel but i dont want to scare her off?
I also dont want to be in pain anymore.

what do i do? i know its sad that i get attached to women this easily, but the pain is still there. sometimes i wonder if i will ever be able to date women easily, with a fickle and jealous heart like mine.
I'm sorry, but this shit is too funny.
 
ballet gal said:
"Had" them? Come on Spart. You bury people for a living. Your sentences begin with, psssst. I know a guy.
well with the wife we had been dating around 6 weeks
she's a perfect type A bitch
just like I like them
but hey she was close to a 10,looked just like that debbie lafave teacher
with a gymnast body etc. etc.
so she knew her "capabilities"
and we eventaully had that argument in which you each go the "hell with you"

after 3 days she called me and sounded fairly beaten
I had a discussion with her and sort of laid done how it was going to be
and she did some crying and agreeing

after I hung up I cried
 
Hands off girls, Human Target is MINE AND MINE ALONE. PRRRRRRRRRRR.
 
Human: "here, kitty, kitty, kitty. (Guess who's driving now meho?)
 
Let's not touch on adoption issues. It really should have very little to do with love. Those two things should not be mixed....ever. You should never even think about entering a relationship until those issues are dealt with. If you are at your emotional-best when entering a relationship, it won't be a fair give and take..... unless you are both overwhelmed with problems. In order to give a relationship a fair start, you need to be in good emotional health.
 
myway said:
Let's not touch on adoption issues. It really should have very little to do with love. Those two things should not be mixed....ever. You should never even think about entering a relationship until those issues are dealt with. If you are at your emotional-best when entering a relationship, it won't be a fair give and take..... unless you are both overwhelmed with problems. In order to give a relationship a fair start, you need to be in good emotional health.
Thanks Dr. My way. Can I get fries with that or does it come with a ph.d?
 
ballet gal said:
Human: "here, kitty, kitty, kitty. (Guess who's driving now meho?)

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ballet gal said:
Thanks Dr. My way. Can I get fries with that or does it come with a ph.d?

Nope. No fries. Just something I know about. If you ever think of something you understand better than me, feel free to share. But remember: Ambulances get free fries. We really hold it against you if you don't give us our free fries.
 
Honestly.... :rolleyes: at anyone giving advice on what love *should be* or is and isn't. Love is a subjective experience. My dad started dating my mom when he was 25 and she was 34 with two kids from a previous marriage. A month later he knew he wanted to marry her. three mohths later he proposed. Almost 30 years later, they still hold hands and go on dates. Kind of goes against all conventional wisdoms these days. We all have to find our own way.
 
nefertiti said:
Honestly.... :rolleyes: at anyone giving advice on what love *should be* or is and isn't. Love is a subjective experience. My dad started dating my mom when he was 25 and she was 34 with two kids from a previous marriage. A month later he knew he wanted to marry her. three mohths later he proposed. Almost 30 years later, they still hold hands and go on dates. Kind of goes against all conventional wisdoms these days. We all have to find our own way.


holy shit, your mom is 9 years older than your dad? your mom was doing some serious tadpoling
 
calveless wonder said:
holy shit, your mom is 9 years older than your dad? your mom was doing some serious tadpoling

My mom was a beautiful woman. Still is, even in her 60's. :)
 
I just think people need to be responsible for their own emotion upkeep. You don't find love by looking for someone to save you from ur past. Save yourself. Then, maybe you can enjoy life a little. The longer you dwell in the past , the more you will doom your future. Don't be pissed off about the world giving you a rough start. If you hold onto shit like that, the only thing you will have to offer the world is a guilt trip.
 
myway said:
I just think people need to be responsible for their own emotion upkeep. You don't find love by looking for someone to save you from ur past. Save yourself. Then, maybe you can enjoy life a little. The longer you dwell in the past , the more you will doom your future. Don't be pissed off about the world giving you a rough start. If you hold onto shit like that, the only thing you will have to offer the world is a guilt trip.

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ballet gal said:
Whey: give me some sugga, baby; you know you love me.

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jestro said:
wait, he loves you like your parents are supposed to? Is that before or after he blows his load on you?
Tsk Tsk. You been to higher learnin Jethro? Like your parents are supposed to. You don't git that? hmm. Well JETHRO Git Elly Mae to splain it to ya.
 
ballet gal said:
Tsk Tsk. You been to higher learnin Jethro? Like your parents are supposed to. You don't git that? hmm. Well JETHRO Git Elly Mae to splain it to ya.

biteme, go to bed already :rolleyes:.
 
I log into this forum to get more info on shooting the juice. However, the biggest discussion I come across is on love? Want to know about love? Listen to the song lurics! Talk to yor friend who can't sleep, eat, or concentrate due to a lover's break-up. Or, watch another person on cloud 9 who acts like every momment of their life is applified by 10 because of their unreserved infatuation with another. The truth of love: It is the constant flow of chemicals to the emotional centers of the brain. Keep a constant infatuation and the flow continues and builds up (In love). Don't constantly dwell on someone and no constant flow occurs (not in love). Once the brain is saturated with love chemicals it is damn hard to flush them out and stop the flow - as so many people know. Even if the gates in the brain close and shut off the flow our memory centers are always sparking and not allowing us forget the highs we once felt. That is why we put up guards and act like assholes. Falling in love is a choice. I, like many, have felt the down side and choose not to fall in love. Damn the bitches! Now can we talk about steroids!
 
myway said:
I just think people need to be responsible for their own emotion upkeep. You don't find love by looking for someone to save you from ur past. Save yourself. Then, maybe you can enjoy life a little. The longer you dwell in the past , the more you will doom your future. Don't be pissed off about the world giving you a rough start. If you hold onto shit like that, the only thing you will have to offer the world is a guilt trip.
agreed. but i think on a somewhat sunconscious level, people will be steered toward a person who will satisfy whatever their needs are - whether that need stems from something fucked up about their past or not. we all have needs per se. but yeah i dont have it in me to be someone's emotional fixer upper. imn supportive but im not a healer.
 
illustrated man said:
I log into this forum to get more info on shooting the juice. However, the biggest discussion I come across is on love? Want to know about love? Listen to the song lurics! Talk to yor friend who can't sleep, eat, or concentrate due to a lover's break-up. Or, watch another person on cloud 9 who acts like every momment of their life is applified by 10 because of their unreserved infatuation with another. The truth of love: It is the constant flow of chemicals to the emotional centers of the brain. Keep a constant infatuation and the flow continues and builds up (In love). Don't constantly dwell on someone and no constant flow occurs (not in love). Once the brain is saturated with love chemicals it is damn hard to flush them out and stop the flow - as so many people know. Even if the gates in the brain close and shut off the flow our memory centers are always sparking and not allowing us forget the highs we once felt. That is why we put up guards and act like assholes. Falling in love is a choice. I, like many, have felt the down side and choose not to fall in love. Damn the bitches! Now can we talk about steroids!

Uhhh, douchenozzle, this is chat and conversation. The roid forum is at the top of the forum list. kthnxbye
 
ballet gal said:
Tsk Tsk. You been to higher learnin Jethro? Like your parents are supposed to. You don't git that? hmm. Well JETHRO Git Elly Mae to splain it to ya.
LOL, lemme explain something to you, since you're in Texas, it might be quite a shock. A parents love is supposed to be platonic.

Pla·ton·ic Pronunciation[pluh-ton-ik, pley

3. (usually lowercase) purely spiritual; free from sensual desire, esp. in a relationship between two persons of the opposite sex.
 
1. You know, because you have been told by your significant other, that your deep feelings are returned in kind.

2. The object of your affections makes you feel special and good about yourself.

3. If/when you feel jealous it is always fleeting; you trust your partner not to betray you or hurt your relationship.

4. Nothing makes you feel as serene as when you and your partner are together.

5. When you fight with your partner you usually make up within a few hours and you always agree that nothing is more important than you both being able to express your true feelings (even if they sometimes cause conflict).

6. Your partner never asks you to choose between him/her and your loyalties to your family and friends - if you do choose him/her over them you always have a good reason and it is always YOUR decision, and your decision alone.

7. Neither you or your partner feel the need to test the other's loyalties or feelings.

8. You are more yourself when with your partner than you are with anybody else.

9. If sex is part of your relationship it is by mutual desire and agreement without the slightest hint of commitment testing or persuasion.
 
ballet gal said:
On my fucking nerves? Hell yes; we fight every day and it's a good thing we live in the country because someone other than Texas folks would call the law!


awwwww! that's so sweet!!

*sigh*
 
when you can openly talk about the frequency of your bowel movements and ask about their texture/consistency.
 
OK since no one has yet addressed this issue I will. Here goes, there are 3 types of love and this is their hierarchy when referencing spiritual/emotional development.

1. Eros - the sexual love between a man and woman.

2. Philos - platonic love - parent/child love, love of a friend or sibling, etc.

3. Agape - the love of mankind.

Does this help any of you?

One can not take the place or make up for another.
 
I love my twin sister

I would rather be dead than live in this world without her

thats love

we are scared for the time when we are old and in nursing homes together, one of us will have to go first! We were born together but cant die together. :(
 
covergrl80 said:
1. You know, because you have been told by your significant other, that your deep feelings are returned in kind.

2. The object of your affections makes you feel special and good about yourself.

3. If/when you feel jealous it is always fleeting; you trust your partner not to betray you or hurt your relationship.

4. Nothing makes you feel as serene as when you and your partner are together.

5. When you fight with your partner you usually make up within a few hours and you always agree that nothing is more important than you both being able to express your true feelings (even if they sometimes cause conflict).

6. Your partner never asks you to choose between him/her and your loyalties to your family and friends - if you do choose him/her over them you always have a good reason and it is always YOUR decision, and your decision alone.

7. Neither you or your partner feel the need to test the other's loyalties or feelings.

8. You are more yourself when with your partner than you are with anybody else.

9. If sex is part of your relationship it is by mutual desire and agreement without the slightest hint of commitment testing or persuasion.

Let's all take love advice from a single mom who just found out her last "love" was sticking myspace Ho's.

Come on!!!!!!!!

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HumanTarget said:
women talk so much because no one listens to them...

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BIKINIMOM said:
Ummm so conversely men are poor orators because every one listens?

Is it just me, or does this not make sense?
the phone biz would go belly up if not for women......because no one else knows how to take 3 hours to say nothing.....
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Oh good....

*phew*

For a moment there, I thought it was just me.


No.

It is just you.

I was just joking that Humantarget was a woman.
 
HumanTarget said:
the phone biz would go belly up if not for women......because no one else knows how to take 3 hours to say nothing.....

I see your point...

However, there are some guys who could give us gals a run for our money.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I see your point...

However, there are some guys who could give us gals a run for our money.
those would be gay men, which count for your side....
 
When you would do any thing and make any sacrafice for them...When it hurts you to hurt them and visa versa..when you know that no matter how hard times can get, you stand by their side and know in the end all will work out..when you want to please this person so much even if that means going out of your way or doing something that you normally dont do...when you look into their eyes and can see the love reflected..when you feel safe in that someones arms and know that you will be protected in various forms.when the simplist little message they leave if only to say just hello warms your heart..when you are away from each other for only a day and cannot stop missing them or thinking of them.when at the end of the day you lay in his arms and know that there is no other place that you would rather be in the world than right where you are!!!!! when his laughter warms your heart and soul..when you words I love you coming from his mouth into your ears makes you feel like the most important woman in the world.
 
manny78 said:
The minute I stopped looking for other females...

TITCR
 
Angel said:
When you would do any thing and make any sacrafice for them...When it hurts you to hurt them and visa versa..when you know that no matter how hard times can get, you stand by their side and know in the end all will work out..when you want to please this person so much even if that means going out of your way or doing something that you normally dont do...when you look into their eyes and can see the love reflected..when you feel safe in that someones arms and know that you will be protected in various forms.when the simplist little message they leave if only to say just hello warms your heart..when you are away from each other for only a day and cannot stop missing them or thinking of them.when at the end of the day you lay in his arms and know that there is no other place that you would rather be in the world than right where you are!!!!! when his laughter warms your heart and soul..when you words I love you coming from his mouth into your ears makes you feel like the most important woman in the world.
ya X2 baby.
 
when you dont get many days off and the one time that you actually do you want to go to the beach with the neighbor, then have the neighbor at the house until 1130 or later drinking that same night...
When you dont give a fuck about your spouse wanting to spend time with you, you just tell him/her to shut the fuck up that you want to enjoy your time...You invite your spouse along to the beach with the neighbor and expect him/her to enjoy that!
when you are so god damned selfish all you care about is your mother fucking self
When you go shopping for groceries and consider that spending time together
 
Angel, it's ironic you mention the grocery store.

Last night, on the way home from work I called my husband and said "Can we have a date tonight? I want you to go grocery shopping with me!"

And so that was our date night. We spent an hour at the grocery store, it was late at night and we had the place to ourselves, and we did all sorts of goofy stuff (i.e. groping in the dairy aisle) and it was a lot of fun!

And once they rang up our items, and the total came to $315 - i looked at Lumberg and said, "Damn you're an expensive date"
 
We're going out to eat and then to workout, she's getting pissed at me cause I won't get off the computer, but I"ve only got a couple more threads to read!
 
biteme said:
We're going out to eat and then to workout, she's getting pissed at me cause I won't get off the computer, but I"ve only got a couple more threads to read!
shouldnt you go workout and THEN go out to eat?
 
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