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how badly will my weights crash after cycle is over

I've jacked my training up to a whole nother level from the strength gains and the guys that are helping me out and pushing me hard. I just keept reading that when you go off your weights drop back down which makes sense because if you always stayed where you were at people would be doing thousands of pounds on some lifts by now. I started out around 178-180lbs and im at 190 right now.
 
i did proper PCT - post cycle therapy - with Clomid and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - ... BUT had to take some time off from the gym due to a job promotion.

my cycle:
Test P 100 mg ed 12 weeks
trenbolone A 100 mg ed 10 weeks
Masteron 100 mg ed 8 weeks

bench on: 505 max

bench now: 375

I only lost 5 pounds of bodyweight and kept 90% of the size gains so I think my drop off had more to due with sore joints and time off from the gym.
 
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i think a lot of it has to do with bone structure. your body naturally will only put on as much mass as your bone structure could hold, gear pushes it further so im thinkin after a cycle your body loses a lot just because of that. i know when i do gear my joints hurt because im using weights and putting on mass way beyond my natural limits.
 
I felt that if I keep my protein up to my cycle levels...1.5gm per lb of bodyweight...and take L-Glutamine...and try to keep my drive going in the gym... I still loose some mass...but always look better than I did before.
 
b_light said:
I've jacked my training up to a whole nother level from the strength gains and the guys that are helping me out and pushing me hard. I just keept reading that when you go off your weights drop back down which makes sense because if you always stayed where you were at people would be doing thousands of pounds on some lifts by now. I started out around 178-180lbs and im at 190 right now.


are you using an ai? whenever i cycled without an ai my strength gains were huge. i was doing 150 lbs. db presses for sets of 6. now, off gear i can get 130's for 8 to 10 and 140's for 3 to 5.

the estrogen plays a huge role. i did these all while really ripped up at around 180 pounds. the water from the estrogen has a huge effect. with the ai's now i rarely go up in strength that much anymore. i always lift pretty heavy regardless of on or off but the gear doesnt make me get that strong now. worry about keeping the muscle gains.
 
markshark said:
i think a lot of it has to do with bone structure. your body naturally will only put on as much mass as your bone structure could hold, gear pushes it further so im thinkin after a cycle your body loses a lot just because of that. i know when i do gear my joints hurt because im using weights and putting on mass way beyond my natural limits.
+1
 
b_light said:
I've jacked my training up to a whole nother level from the strength gains and the guys that are helping me out and pushing me hard. I just keept reading that when you go off your weights drop back down which makes sense because if you always stayed where you were at people would be doing thousands of pounds on some lifts by now. I started out around 178-180lbs and im at 190 right now.
thats elmost identical to my weight gains, i went 194 to 206, im in week 7, im on testosterone enanthate 400 wk, i guess we are doing ok, was a, little nervous that i wasnt gaining enough but i got an inch on my arms so far so tha ts cool
 
yeah i got a 1/4" on my arms so far. my back and legs are getting most of the weight. my fucking pants barely fit anymore.
 
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