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Okay...I'm going to be starting this cycle in a lil over 2 months. I've got pretty much everything figured out, but want to make sure I have everything right before I start. Here is the cycle i've come up with (thanks Needto)

1-12 test 500mg ew
4-12 500iu's HCG - ew
14-18 sustain alpha 5 pumps ed
if you like add some clomid 25-50mg ed with the sustain.

keep Arimidex on hand.

So my questions are...

Do you think I should go with the Clomid?

What's the proper way of taking HCG? (still a little confused on this so be detailed)

I'll be splitting the 500mgs of Test-E into to injections. My Test-E is 20ml/250mg...so would that be 1cc per injection?
 
I think I would keep nolvadex on hand as thats specific to breast tissue, but if thats not an issue for you than everything looks pretty good to me. :)
 
A test only cycle. You don't see that a lot around here. I like it very much. Is this our first cycle? second?
 
Its my first...don't wanna get carried away. :)


can anyone answer this question...What's the proper way of taking HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - ? (still a little confused on this so be detailed)
 
Since its your first I would definately get some nolvadex.

Thats one way to run hcg. You can also do a 3 week course during the middle of the cycle and then at the end before beginning the clomid.
 
needtogetaas said:
just do what I said bro No one is going to say its not good.
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Actually...that cycle is exactly what you told me to do. My question i'm still looking for is the correct..or preferred way to take HCG.

Angel has never gotten back to me, but I think I figured out Sub-Q.

The thing is...is it better to go IM or Sub-Q with HCG? also 500IU? i'm confused on that.

Every other dosage is in MG/CC, what's IU? how much is that, how do I measure it?

Sorry for being a complete newb, but just wanna make sure i'm 100% clear on everything.
 
Great thanks!

I think i've gotten everything pretty well figured out. Well, except for the pinning. That still seems sketchy to me. I guess once you do it a few times it'd be okay. But since i've never done it i'm extremely nervous about it...too the point I even had a bad dream last night. (kept getting blood while aspirating the glutes) LOL...Might have had something to do with I was trying to figure out where you would pin in the glute when I got out of the shower and I noticed there seem to be a lot of veins in the glutes.
 
miplank said:
Great thanks!

I think i've gotten everything pretty well figured out. Well, except for the pinning. That still seems sketchy to me. I guess once you do it a few times it'd be okay. But since i've never done it i'm extremely nervous about it...too the point I even had a bad dream last night. (kept getting blood while aspirating the glutes) LOL...Might have had something to do with I was trying to figure out where you would pin in the glute when I got out of the shower and I noticed there seem to be a lot of veins in the glutes.
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It will be fine, you're just thinking too much right now. After a few you'll be fine. Be sure to keep everything sterile. Lots of rubbing alcohol.
 
yeah...I have a big box of alcohol pads.

this shit is nerve racking if you think about it too much. LOL..probably why most beginners always want orals.

Thanks for all your help guys.
 
why 500mg test a week for his first cycle...isn't that a little too high....he'll grow plenty from 250 mg
 
miplank said:
yeah...I have a big box of alcohol pads.

this shit is nerve racking if you think about it too much. LOL..probably why most beginners always want orals.

Thanks for all your help guys.
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For your first few shots i'd suggest you do quad shots because you can better see what you are doing and sit down. If find quad shots much easier than glute shots. Actually I prefer them. After a while it becomes hard to turn around to pin the glute.
 
cop said:
why 500mg test a week for his first cycle...isn't that a little too high....he'll grow plenty from 250 mg
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Thats always my recomendation for a first cycle. I know I grew great on 250mg/wk and I still can, many many cycles later.
 
ViperHMS said:
For your first few shots i'd suggest you do quad shots because you can better see what you are doing and sit down. If find quad shots much easier than glute shots. Actually I prefer them. After a while it becomes hard to turn around to pin the glute.
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+1 Do quads until you get the hang of pinning. Leg will be sore but you can see what you're doing.
 
halfcenturian said:
+1 Do quads until you get the hang of pinning. Leg will be sore but you can see what you're doing.
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I originally had planned on going quads, but they aren't as well developed as i'd like and was concerned about not hitting the correct spot.

After some discussion though, sounds like on top of the quad in the middle is good.

With that said, I'll be trying the quads
 
miplank said:
Actually...that cycle is exactly what you told me to do. My question i'm still looking for is the correct..or preferred way to take HCG.

Angel has never gotten back to me, but I think I figured out Sub-Q.

The thing is...is it better to go IM or Sub-Q with HCG? also 500IU? i'm confused on that.

Every other dosage is in MG/CC, what's IU? how much is that, how do I measure it?

Sorry for being a complete newb, but just wanna make sure i'm 100% clear on everything.
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check your pm's bro. Angel got to you tonight. Sorry for the wait. She just started a new job and now is going back to school again and working.

I guess she wants to just keep going to school lol.
 
I wouldnt do quads bro. Thats a disaster waiting to happen. Guy at my work just decided to do that and he didnt walk right for a week or two. Start with glutes. Keep it simple
 
cop said:
why 500mg test a week for his first cycle...isn't that a little too high....he'll grow plenty from 250 mg
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I feel the same but if its UG labs stuff its probably under dosed so it may be wise to double up, but thats a whole other discussion.
 
The only thing I say about quad shots is make sure you are doing them right, lots of nerves and veins,, always aspirate
 
miplank said:
I originally had planned on going quads, but they aren't as well developed as i'd like and was concerned about not hitting the correct spot.

After some discussion though, sounds like on top of the quad in the middle is good.

With that said, I'll be trying the quads
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There is pleanty of places out there to help you with where and how.

http://www.spotinjections.com is a good one.

Now on the info section it goes step by step on preparing for a shot, but the one thing I dont agree with is having to worry about getting all the air out of the pin. If you pump a few bubbles of air into yourself your not going to die. Even if you were in a vein and shot air in there, still not going to die.

I choose the area of quads to shoot just like I do with glutes. IF you were to sit down with your legs straight in front of you and drew a line straight down the middle and another from left to right in the middle, you'd choose the middle of the top outer square to shoot into.

Quads are simple and really are not as scary as people make them out to be, but hey everyone is different and the choice is up to you. Good luck.
 
thanks for the tips guys.


I got another week left on my cyclotren/havoc plus PCT, then i'm going to have some blood work done. and then some time off. Then i'll be ready for this cycle.
 
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