help me tweak my cycle

[nakavalna]

I havnt ran a cycle in 4 yrs and I only did one so im going to try this.


600mg test cyp a week (i have some 4 yr old lying around)
400 mg deca durabolin
and im not sure how much dianabol (or should i go anavar?)

also I want to run arimidex and hcg for the whole 12 week mass cycle...

any dosing instructions on those or the dbol?

im 6'1 189 lbs ?(ill be 175 when i start this cycle prolly wont be for 2 months or so)

im 24 size 34 waist.

pleae please please chime in any oppinion

thanks

J

 

[LiquidPhire]

bro the deca will make you retain more water then anything, so id run the dbol @ 40mg per day spread out throughout the day for the first 4 weeks of the cycle. Your dosages look good though save the var for a cutting cycle, yes people will say cutting is all diet yea its true but steroids that make you retain water aren't the smartest first choice. Make sure you have PCT in hand BEFORE a cycle and run the TEST 2 weeks longer then the deca as it takes longer to clear and you want to prevent shutdown from the nandro.

Good luck and make sure you get bloodwork once done.

 

[HAYEZ]

you should cut a bit more first..34 waist 6 1 and 189 pounds seems like your tall and lanky with a gut..why not cut down first get a low bodyfat before bulking?

 

[LiquidPhire]

HAYEZ bro you are right! I can never fucken visualize what people look like with stats but based on your statement - yes! I'd listen to you instead

 

[needtogetaas]

test prop/var/npp might be a better choice.

 

[HAYEZ]

lmfao i been all types of sizes..i can visualize most..lol..

 

[nakavalna]

no gut anymore , dropped 60 lbs

 

[HAYEZ]

no gut anymore , dropped 60 lbs

i would diet more...can you see your abs?

 

[nakavalna]

i can see the top part and some serratus and obliques bottom has the last 5 lbs on it....this cycle wouldnt be untill sept. as im still dieting to lose another 15 - 20

 

[joe d]

i havent seen my abs in 15 years. run the cycle needto suggested. prop/npp/var. after you bulk up you will have a reason to cut.

 

[nakavalna]

i still have to find the stuff when i move back to fl at the end of the month lol

 

[needtogetaas]

i still have to find the stuff when i move back to fl at the end of the month lol

Now that is cutting it close to braking rules and or getting scammed.

 

[nakavalna]

sry i didnt mean anything by it at all.

 

[HAYEZ]

i havent seen my abs in 15 years. run the cycle needto suggested. prop/npp/var. after you bulk up you will have a reason to cut.

he just lost 60 pounds and has more to lose..doing a bulking cycle isnt the best option now...
option 1
bulk now he gonna be thick and fat still...then hes gonna diet and lose all his gains starving himself

option 2
start cutting now...get super lean..once you have low body fat (which i know if what you want or you wouldnt of lost 60 pounds) then bulk so you can see the new body and definition on your frame...

original poster ive already been in your shoes..ive been 180 with 8 %... 250 with a 40inch waist... 214 at 10% etc etc....trut me get as cut as you can before bulking or you gonna be a mess and unhappy

 

[joe d]

he just lost 60 pounds and has more to lose..doing a bulking cycle isnt the best option now...
option 1
bulk now he gonna be thick and fat still...then hes gonna diet and lose all his gains starving himself

option 2
start cutting now...get super lean..once you have low body fat (which i know if what you want or you wouldnt of lost 60 pounds) then bulk so you can see the new body and definition on your frame...

original poster ive already been in your shoes..ive been 180 with 8 %... 250 with a 40inch waist... 214 at 10% etc etc....trut me get as cut as you can before bulking or you gonna be a mess and unhappy

i dont see a problem with stopping on the weight loss diet, going on, eating clean adding some good mass with little to no fat gain, running a normal pct still not gaining or losing much fat then run another cycle to cut with. but maybe thats just me. i wouldnt want to be skinny w/o being jacked and to get on stage.

if you want to be a lot leaner than you are now than i guess cutting first may be the better choice. just keep in mind big muscles balance out the gut. and cutting while on gear makes preventing muscle loss a lot easier. i know that from personal experience. i was around 20% bf before i started training and then i looked like a blob with a huge gut. now i am still in the 20% range but look much more lean. the pecs lats, and quads, make the spare tire look verry minor.

thats just my opinion. HAYEZ knows his shit. he has never steared me wrong.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

i havent seen my abs in 15 years. run the cycle needto suggested. prop/npp/var. after you bulk up you will have a reason to cut.

Jesus Joe. 274 @ 5'5". Thats sick bro. You gotta take pics when you cut. Go win yourself a NPC show too.

 

[nakavalna]

test prop/var/npp might be a better choice.

If I where to run that what kind of dosages and lengths are we talking also i want to run pct for the duration. could use some #'s so I can write them down.


also yes I will cut the rest of the at off before I begin and Ill get some pre photo's up from when i was 257 to what I am before I run the cycle and after etc etc

ty guys!

 

[nakavalna]

anyone?

 

[sweed]

why not just a prop/var cycle. after not doing a cycle for 4 years, I think that will be enough to make some solid gains imo. 100-150mgs eod test. 40mgs var ed. 6 weeks long and starting pct 1-3 days after last injection. what will you have for pct, anti e's, etc?

 

[joe d]

If I where to run that what kind of dosages and lengths are we talking also i want to run pct for the duration. could use some #'s so I can write them down.


also yes I will cut the rest of the at off before I begin and Ill get some pre photo's up from when i was 257 to what I am before I run the cycle and after etc etc

ty guys!

1-8 prop 400mg ew
1-6 npp 250mg ew
2-8 50mg var ed
heep adex, letro, and bromo or dostinex in case you need them

pct start the day after the last shot
pp trs, post cycle, unleashed as directed for 1 month
clomid 50mg ed for the same month

 

[nakavalna]

r u sure i shouldnt do a 600/400?

 

[sweed]

that's a gram of AS. Not recommneded for a 2nd cycle.
sorry I meant 8 weeks prop and 6 of the var like joe said.

 

[joe d]

you can. thats not to high. i think you may want to start lower.

 

[HAYEZ]

Doses are fine. Many people run a gram of test Only as first cycles. Sides are over stated

 

[nakavalna]

coolness... how about doses and qty for pct stuff .. clomid hcg arimidex im prone to gyno so i wanna run this stuff for the entire cycle...just never have

 

[HAYEZ]

adex .25mg eod if needed..adjust dose form there...
hcg 500iu e3d from week 4 till 3 days before pct starts
i prefer nolva for pct
nolva
60mg 7 days
40mg 14-21 days

 

[joe d]

coolness... how about doses and qty for pct stuff .. clomid hcg arimidex im prone to gyno so i wanna run this stuff for the entire cycle...just never have

hcg can be run different ways. you should look that up and pick. clomid 50mg ed for 30 days and the adex you will only need in case you start to get estro sides. .25-.50mg eod

 

[nakavalna]

im prone to gyno so i dont even want to chance it

 

[joe d]

im prone to gyno so i dont even want to chance it

.5mg adex eod from the start of the cycle until the day before you start the clomid should do the trick. if you find you need more (i doubt you will) add .25mg more to the eod dose