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Hello Pro-Choice!!

It is dependant upon the state. Most states have you committed to a nut ward until they feel you are sane again and no longer a harm to yourself.

From what I have read about partial birth is that the child is partially delivered alive and then brutally executed. And this is allowed up through the 9th month.

I just think it is a mockery of human life for us to play the role of god to this extent. I am serving my country and possibly will die in that service. And for what? So that othes can be careless and dispose of a life like a used tampon? Those that get knocked up and didn't want to be should be sterilized to prevent such further incidences! And that goes for the guy who did it as well! You don't want the kid okay, we give you abortion. We also take your ovaries and give you a vasectomy. Case closed. At least they will never be in need of an eraser again.

And your not being a smart ass. It is a good question.
 
velvett said:
Come to think of it.

People should be required to have a licence to bear children and those how have children without said licence should lose right to their child.

Perhaps people would learn how to use a condom.

Remove the safeguard of abortion and I guarantee the rate of pill and condom usage would rise. Why deprive valid rights, the right to procreate, for the priviledge of some to kill?
 
T the state has already rejected the "it's my body and I should be able to do what I want" stance, since the ingestion of many substances is prohibited by law. if it is "her body", then why do we jail her for using illegal drugs?


So why, again, should this be legal, in our current frameowrk? Someone tell me that. What am I overlooking?
 
on the cover of the chicago tribune yesterday, they had a picture of bush signing the bill surrounded by about 10 men...

it was an interesting sight...all these men, passing a law about a procedure that they could NEVER experience.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
T the state has already rejected the "it's my body and I should be able to do what I want" stance, since the ingestion of many substances is prohibited by law. if it is "her body", then why do we jail her for using illegal drugs?


So why, again, should this be legal, in our current frameowrk? Someone tell me that. What am I overlooking?

You are overlooking the fact that the consequences of unwanted and defective babies cost society more than reducing populations by abortion.

Also, you are overlooking the fact that you can ingest pretty much 99.9999999% of what you want in your body.
 
chesty said:
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I just think it is a mockery of human life for us to play the role of god to this extent. I am serving my country and possibly will die in that service. And for what? So that othes can be careless and dispose of a life like a used tampon?

In previous wars thousands of black men (and white men) gave their lives to defend the lives of Americans, some of whom didn't consider those same black men worthy of life at all. What's your point?
You serve your country defending people's freedom, and that freedom includes the right to do things you don't necessarily agree with.
 
It's really a tough call. I believe in the woman's right to choose. But late term abortions are are really disgusting things. Medically they have far more risks to the mother than early terms. From a financial perspective late terms start at $4,000 and increase depending on situation, while a first trimester abortion will only set you back around $400ish. Why would the mother wait until that late in the game to make that decision? I dunno but it does happen. And since late terms are much more compicated would you rather have people doing these operations in the back alleys or by a real doctor under sanitary conditions? Do you think a real doctor would risk his entire career to do an illegal operation like this?

You can't assume that making abortion illegal will eliminate abortion. It will only criminalize it and make it more dangerous to those that get them.
 
Shak said:
on the cover of the chicago tribune yesterday, they had a picture of bush signing the bill surrounded by about 10 men...

it was an interesting sight...all these men, passing a law about a procedure that they could NEVER experience.

Experience of an act has nothing to do with understanding the consequences or ethics of it. Your reasoning implies that no President should ever declare war and mobilize troops, no matter how grave the threat, if he has never EXPERIENCED war himself.

Have you ever been raped? Without "experiencing" it, how can you know its wrong?
 
I'm pro-choice but I don't have a problem with prohibiting late term abortions, as long as that's ALL they want to prohibit.
 
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