HCG Debate

[beachstud]

I personally think running HCG during a cycle is merely a waste of HCG and time. I just don't think it will aid in teh true recovery at the end of the cycle in ANY WAY. people may disagree but with all that shit you are taking the HCG is doing nothing but teasing your body, there is nothing constructive coming out of it in my oppinion.

now as for the cycle, why are you only running the propinate 2 weeks? why not run it say 6? Also i'd start the tren A at week 13......otherwise thats a pretty kick ass stack right there.. i'd have some letro on hand just in case gyno symptoms kick in

Drrrman I remember we had a spat about this awhile back. I'm beginning to see your point now that it could be just a waste during cycle, but I'll buy that insurance policy.

I believe a short, 2-3 week HCG treatment in the middle of my 16 weeker is cheap insurance. The price is negligable and I believe that temporarily stimulating the tissue is a good idea during a long cycle. Although the nuts may shrink back down, it seems like they would have less total time in 'hibernation' and that that would be a positive thing.

I cannot understand why someone would run a dose of HCG consistently throughout an entire cycle. That is asking for Leydig Cell desensitization and a much harder recovery in PCT.

I agree with drrman that by far the biggest benefit of HCG is during PCT, but a quick round mid-cycle seems like a cheap insurance policy to me.

 

[Varga]

The thought behind taking it during the cycle is the fact that at the end the nuts never went dormid and they are ready to go.
The best analogy I can use is like coming out of a comma after a year of innactivity. Do you think you are going to perform the same way as before?
Not realy, it will take you awhile. But if you keep on moving around and keep the muscle moving it will be a breeze. I can tell you that using HCG during the cycle improves my ability to recover and I hold on to 90% my gains. At such low dosages I doubt HCG will adversely affect you.

 

[Slyder190]

Me personally, I run it 3x a week for the final 3 weeks of my cycle, and actually will use it for around 5 consecutive days till 48 hours prior to the beginning of my PCT.

 

[krishna]

Me personally, I run it 3x a week for the final 3 weeks of my cycle, and actually will use it for around 5 consecutive days till 48 hours prior to the beginning of my PCT.

This is pretty much what I do; end of my cycle meaning around the time the esters clear.

 

[UA_Iron]

I bounced back from a 15 weeker of test and tren E for 10 weeks just fine. No HCG and sporadic AIFM usage.

Depends on the person.

People here thinks a one-size fits all PCT regiment is gonna work for everyone?

I had HCG just in case, never felt like I needed it.

 

[Varga]

How old r U man?

 

[dsh89]

This cycle is the first time I have used HCG and I started after being on for 14 weeks because I was totally shut down. I couln't nut for shit, and my scrotum was completely shrunken. I started with 250 iu eod for 2 weeks, and now am doing 500iu once a week for the remained of my cycle, and a couple weeks thereafter. So far I have had a very positive result. The boys are back and I have had no problems.

 

[bigmodean]

Agreed,my balls barely shrunk during 500mg ew Test E,maybe 20% smaller,but using hcg 500iu a day for 10 days,2 weeks after cycle,then onto CLomid,on 10th day of hcg now,feel great all around,no crashing,or loss of gains yet.(3.5 weeks post cycle)

 

[boston789]

So do you guys usually run it the last couple of weeks while still on AAS? Or do you start the HCG as soon as you stop AAS?

 

[beachstud]

So do you guys usually run it the last couple of weeks while still on AAS? Or do you start the HCG as soon as you stop AAS?

I'm sure that's up for even more debate. I run it about a week after my last shot of Test-E. The problem with running it earlier, imho, is that you risk jumpstarting your nuts too early--before the esters cleared your system. When you stop the HCG, there's still all that synthetic test in your system and your nuts just throttle back again.

The idea of all this is to have a smooth transition. Let the test levels fall off, jumpstart your nuts with hcg/clomid, then wait for your body to settle out in homeostasis w/out anything--i.e. a soft landing...