hard cardio and aas?

[ajax2310]

hey guys been scanning the boards for a few weeks now and just signed up the other day
was wondering if i could get some advice. im 24, weigh 80kg, and i do boxing which is pretty
intense cardio, anywhere between 3-6 times a week and been doing gym work for 4 years
on and off. I want to put on more muscle mass but the problem is i get tested every so often
so something that stays in my system for long isnt a good idea. any advice is appreciated. thanks

 

[stevesmi]

well if you box competitively don't you have to stay very lean to make weight?

if so you might want to look into anavar, doesn't stay in your system very long and might be the perfect thing for you

however no AAS is gonna help you with cardio if that is what the basis of your question is. only solution is to run LSD "long, slow, distance"

 

[ajax2310]

my goal is to put on more muscle weight, not to give an edge on the cardio side. but i still
want to maintain boxing while putting on the weight, which is kinda hard due to the cardio.
would need to be something that doesnt last more than around 3 months.

is it possible to put on weight on anavar even with the high cardio?
or just not expect to put on the muscle to quickly?

 

[stevesmi]

you want something with a short half life, the obvious answer is an oral. however orals have sides
be careful. AAS can cripple your endurance in the ring. i know you are trying to get an edge but I honestly cannot recommend that AAS is the answer for you. might just want to work harder in the weight room.

 

[Judo Tom]

low doses. increase gym time and effor. increase food intake A LOT! dont worry about gaining some extra fat. after the cycle is over wait a bit then cut back up

 

[Sub-Zero]

what about a low-moderate dose of test prop and some sort of oral?

 

[aj13]

Dude are you boxing as a hobby or are you training competitively? amateur? Iv got experience boxing,

 

[RADAR]

Might want tolook into Beastdrol,that will give you some punching power

 

[C.K.]

var, tbol, mhn all great orals test prop & mast prop clear within 3 days could run those 2 with your choice of oral

 

[lamatit]

Watch out for the calve pumps if you plan on doing any jogging or running as part of your cardio.

 

[Billyb23]

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[lamatit]

If you're asking for a source you wont get one on these boards. no talk of sources....
But you can look at the stickes and see "the source check forum"...

 

[ajax2310]

thanks for the advice guys will look into it some more =)

 

[Zyglamail]

Why do you want to add muscle/weight? If your not into bodyduilding, then who cares about mass? Do you simply want more strength? If so, then simply train for pure strength and mass gains will be secondary. Train for mass and strength gains will be secondary.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Id go Prop/Tren/Mast cycle. youd get what your looking for. The tren will def. kill ur cardio, but at the same time, youll see equal gains and even bigger gains if you can still do you fell session. Tren=poor mans hgh.... What about HGH? Pretty sure most common test dont test for HGH, its naturally produced and unless there doing blood work and can see that you gh levels are a bit higher, they would never find out. Dont go all barry bonds on us tho and get big as fuck outta nowhere... Do it in moderation and youll see the gains over time. Cycle in some AAS and your gains will be quicker enabaling you to get off faster and clear yourself for test. peptides do wonders as well. Dont know about your wallet, but you can kinda control what you want with how much your using.
Good luck
Johnny

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Id go Prop/Tren/Mast cycle. youd get what your looking for. The tren will def. kill ur cardio, but at the same time, youll see equal gains and even bigger gains if you can still do you fell session. Tren=poor mans hgh.... What about HGH? Pretty sure most common test dont test for HGH, its naturally produced and unless there doing blood work and can see that you gh levels are a bit higher, they would never find out. Dont go all barry bonds on us tho and get big as fuck outta nowhere... Do it in moderation and youll see the gains over time. Cycle in some AAS and your gains will be quicker enabaling you to get off faster and clear yourself for test. peptides do wonders as well. Dont know about your wallet, but you can kinda control what you want with how much your using, and diet.
Good luck
Johnny

 

[ajax2310]

I want to add muscle so i can see the scales go up, i want a slight bigger build and wouldnt mind going up a weight class as well
I think im gonna give beastdrol/katanadrol a shot. It seems to be what im looking for, short cycle and lean gains =)
Some liver support and maybe hcgenerate during cycle and a pct.
thanks for all the advice gents

 

[aj13]

in my experience boxing and muay heavy weights to bulk up is a no no. you'll develop slow twitch muscles as opposed to fast twitch etc etc. bit of google reseaerch will go into detail

 

[ajax2310]

what options do i have? i want to keep boxing but put on some size >_<
boxing isnt always endurance cardio but, training for speed and explosiveness is like sprinting and doesnt that build fast twitch
i know its not the wisest thing to do, but the way i see it its the only way i have a chance at putting on size

 

[stevesmi]

I met a former Olympic boxer at my gym and the dude was skinny as heck, his chest was small.. your best bet is to talk to other boxers and see what helped them.

gotta choose what you want. bodybuilding or boxing. cannot excel at both

 

[Voijn]

im not sure.
But woudent Anavar - Primo - Winstrol - EQ be perfect for such a goal.
Low to nil water retension.
Clean mass gains.
first 3 are out of system fast

 

[stevesmi]

^^^AAS will kill cardio.. anytime you increase RBC count and heart rate it will damage your cardio, even mild AAS like primo or anavar. it is just a matter of how much cardio he can afford to lose in exchange for some mass.

its tricky.. he might be better off buying some supps and natty test boosters instead. unleashed for example.

 

[muaythaiburiram]

if you aim to last 12rounds in the ring u should avoid Tbol and Var ,they will kill you cardio and make u a easy target