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Hansel and other PS3 fanboys......

You are kidding me right??

I bought a PS3 and have given it some time and it is crap.

Downloads are terribly slow and once you wait 5 times as long as xbox takes to download a demo....you get to wait even more while the demo "installs"....wtf??

online is a mess, every game I try to play has to be "updated" before I can play them, which again takes forever.

What exactly is so awesome about this system again? besides the blue ray?

I just bought a PS2 in $10:D Im happy because i got what i paid for and didnt expect much :p
 
Actually yes....I'm trying to give the PS3 a fair chance.

But after holding out for so long listening to the people who only choose to buy 1 console, I think most Ps3 owners are in denial.

I've boughten all three consoles as well, but found that a PC/PS3 is the best combination for me, if I had to get a console. The Wii I bought for the gf and doesn't have any games that really interest me. I grew up on Nintendo but also kinda grew out of it. Xbox 360 was cool at first, but I didn't like the fact at the time that I had to buy $100 adapters just to get a WIFI signal to avoid stringing 20' of extra cable around the floor between rooms, and the thing's reliability was sketchy at best. Gears of War owned everything at one point, but when I got tired of it I went to a PS3 because it had built in WIFI and its game outlook looked more diverse and high quality than Xbox's after a while. It also has a standard HDD and Blu-ray capacity, which means more developer possibilities/longer lifespan.

Not to mention it managed to convince the most die hard anti-PS3 developer to choose it over the 360 to implement Steam on.

Gabe Newell then-
"The PS3 is a total disaster on so many levels, I think It’s really clear that Sony lost track of what customers and what developers wanted," Newell told Game Informer magazine. "I’d say, even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a ‘do over’. Just say, ‘This was a horrible disaster and we’re sorry and we’re going to stop selling this and stop trying to convince people to develop for it.’"

Gabe Newell: "PlayStation 3 Is a Total Disaster" - Xbox


Gabe Newell now-



This is a hardcore PC guy, basically saying that he's now favoring PS3 because he realizes it's more PC-like than the 360 ever will be. I've always though Microsoft's console division behaves more like Apple than anything. Kinda ironic.
 
Exactly how does the ps3 behave more like a PC?


Me thinks Sony needed to buy off somebody to make that statement. Look I'm not going to debate graphics on the two cause in the end, the PS3 will probably eek out a win there. But to say it works more like a PC than the 360? Ummmm, right. I'm not a computer engineer but I remember reading what alot of developers had to say about how the Ps3 uses it's memory...didn't sound like a PC and the developers said as much. It was a pain in the ass to develop for and still is. And it's "meant" to be that way. Sony wants there to be such a steep learning curve for their hardware that it takes up all your fucking resources as a developer....nothing to spare for other platforms. Microsoft uses this same strategy with it's software which is why companies are reluctant to switch to anything else cause they've invested so much money in training their employees on microsoft software like excel and access.
 
Exactly how does the ps3 behave more like a PC?


Me thinks Sony needed to buy off somebody to make that statement. Look I'm not going to debate graphics on the two cause in the end, the PS3 will probably eek out a win there. But to say it works more like a PC than the 360? Ummmm, right. I'm not a computer engineer but I remember reading what alot of developers had to say about how the Ps3 uses it's memory...didn't sound like a PC and the developers said as much. It was a pain in the ass to develop for and still is. And it's "meant" to be that way. Sony wants there to be such a steep learning curve for their hardware that it takes up all your fucking resources as a developer....nothing to spare for other platforms. Microsoft uses this same strategy with it's software which is why companies are reluctant to switch to anything else cause they've invested so much money in training their employees on microsoft software like excel and access.

You realize the main point of that E3 appearance was because Valve is putting Steam on PS3, no? That's why he made the comment about Portal 2 being "the best version of any console". Why would they put it on PS3 and not 360?

It wasn't about hardware architecture, but rather about what kind of services and features each system is capable of, as the 360 doesn't have things like-

-Standard HDD (MS can thank the Arcade SKU for that, and I bet they're kicking themselves now).
-User upgradeable HDD of any size, brand etc. as long as it's a 2.5" drive. Whereas MS uses the still overpriced proprietary kind.
-No file size limit on downloads. There are game demos on PS3 larger than what 360 can allow for full games.

Don't quote me on those as being "the" reasons, but I figure they had something to do with the PC-like advantages Gabe thought of before striking this deal. Of course, it's not like a PS3 love bug bit Gabe in the ass one day and made him do a 180. There was as much an effort on Sony's part to convince him they've changed their ways enough to give proper support they might not have had years ago.

There was an article about this after E3 that maybe explains it better than I did-
E3 2010: Why Valve on the PS3 can change EVERYTHING | GamesRadar
 
anyone who says xbox 360 has better graphics than ps3 is a retard.

i guess every single major industry gaming magazine is wrong huh?


I think at BEST the ps3 CAN have as good as graphics as the xbox 360...problem is that it is so hard to develop games for the ps3 that it it takes way way to long for a good game to come out.

Bought a game today, had to wait about 10 min for all the "updates"to be downloaded and intstalled before I could play and I have a fast 10mb/sec internet.
 
anyone who says xbox 360 has better graphics than ps3 is a retard.

i guess every single major industry gaming magazine is wrong huh?

I think a lot of PS3 hate comes from Sony just being around so long and dominating. Then when they stumbled at launch a lot of people just loved pouring the salt in the wounds and jumped on the Xbox wagon. Eventually people will realize Microsoft's console business is no different and with Kinect is actually looking worse for core gamers.

I can appreciate as a consumer that Sony spares no expense into making their (exclusive) games as good as they can be, with each seeming to have a unique look and feel. Can't really say the same for Microsoft, where almost every single game uses the Unreal 3 engine and the marketing budget rivals development's. Watch when Gears of War 3 and Halo: Reach hit, you'll see stuff for them everywhere. Although I give Bungie credit; they reworked a few things and it looks quite a bit better than Halo 3. They had to step it up though, especially with their grand finale and with other games out looking so good now.
 
I think at BEST the ps3 CAN have as good as graphics as the xbox 360...problem is that it is so hard to develop games for the ps3 that it it takes way way to long for a good game to come out.

Bought a game today, had to wait about 10 min for all the "updates"to be downloaded and intstalled before I could play and I have a fast 10mb/sec internet.


What would you say is the best looking Xbox 360 game?
 
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

gears of war 2

mass effect 2

I think there are many that look really good...but I am not a graphics whore, I prefer the game play.

There are ps3 games that look really good also, but they take way to long to develop.
 
I have a PS3 and an Xbox, and I play on my PS3 while the Xbox 360 collects dust. PS3 online gaming is free and it has Little Big Planet, Unhcharted 2, Killzone 2, Motorstorm 2. The xbox 360 has only mass effects and halo and gears which are stupid and getting old.

The only thing I like about the Xbox 360 is their online system. But again, with recent updates Sony is starting to catch up.

I am sorry, but PS3 wins this rounds. Little Big Planet is just too awesome and I cant get enough from it!
 
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