Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
napsgear
genezapharmateuticals
domestic-supply
puritysourcelabs
UGL OZ
UGFREAK
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals domestic-supplypuritysourcelabsUGL OZUGFREAK

had gyno operation

E

elitetoxin

New member
its gone .. and i can honestly say that it has not been this flat since i was 13-14!

Allright, while the gyno is gone, i do have some "hard" stuff just underneath the nip area, moreso in the left side(3x3cm's), the nurse said it was normal when i was in to get the stitches out 1½ week later.. fluids and such!
Anyone else experience that ? if so, when did it dissapear?
I was back in the gym after having the stitches out(the next day), even a light chest workout .. just low range of motion, keeping out of the areas where it was uncomfortable and sore.
today it's 14 days ago, and its still sore, especially the left side.
suggestions ? should i've taken a longer break ?
 
becareful it WILL come back if your careless, i dont give a shit what anyone says and how many posts they have or longest vet on the boards.

it CAN come back
 
juntao said:
becareful it WILL come back if your careless, i dont give a shit what anyone says and how many posts they have or longest vet on the boards.

it CAN come back
Click to expand...

Your a moron.. If the gland is completely removed, it CAN NOT come back. Fatty tissue yes it can come back.. Fatty tissue causes some of the puffiness with gyno.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Your a moron.. If the gland is completely removed, it CAN NOT come back. Fatty tissue yes it can come back.. Fatty tissue causes some of the puffiness with gyno.
Click to expand...


you ever have the surgery?
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
You're a moron.. If the gland is completely removed, it CAN NOT come back. Fatty tissue yes it can come back.. Fatty tissue causes some of the puffiness with gyno.
Click to expand...
fixed
 
elitetoxin said:
its gone .. and i can honestly say that it has not been this flat since i was 13-14!

Allright, while the gyno is gone, i do have some "hard" stuff just underneath the nip area, moreso in the left side(3x3cm's), the nurse said it was normal when i was in to get the stitches out 1½ week later.. fluids and such!
Anyone else experience that ? if so, when did it dissapear?
I was back in the gym after having the stitches out(the next day), even a light chest workout .. just low range of motion, keeping out of the areas where it was uncomfortable and sore.
today it's 14 days ago, and its still sore, especially the left side.
suggestions ? should i've taken a longer break ?
Click to expand...


you will see more improvement as the swelling reduces even more. if you are feeling well, physicial says it safe for you to train just use light weights starting back and build it back up again

good luck
 
I believe I read here from a mod it can come back, but it will gather in a different spot.
Thats why some BB have a lump on the side of there chest..

I think MACRO wrote that. I am not 1100% though..

-NP
 
if you get ALL of the gland, it can't come back, but if they don't get it all I suppose it could come back. I know transsexual females who live as men, who have had their breast removed and even though the still produce estrogen, it will not grow back.
 
yea, sure it can come back .. the gland is like a seed .. they ususally leave a lil bit behind right behind the nipple to avoid it from 'falling in' and giving an unnatural look.

I just read elsewhere that recommended offtime from chest related excersise is 3-4 weeks ... you gotta be kidding me .. allright, all the reasons listed has to do with bleedings/fluids etc.. nothing much about the scarring..

i use this surgery-tape to keep the skin from not stretching ... however anyone's got bad scarring from a gynoop ?
 
yep it can come back there is no way to know if they really got all the estrogenic tissue and in more cases than not they didn't. ever hear of stem cells? they are all over the body distributed in the fat. the gland is just part of the gross anatomy, histologically the cells left behind can still lead to some issues down the road if exposed to the right conditions.
 
I also had some gyno come back after the surgery HOWEVER it is only one side... quite obviously because part of the gland was missed on that side. On the side it was done properly i have had no issues.

My gyno was from puberty and had been there all my life.

I had severe fluid retention below each one of my pecs. However I also had some lipo with fat removal to shape, which would have led to more fluid retention. Took me several months before I could get back into the gym.
 
im 3 in a half weeks out from gyno surgery the doc tells u it can come back no guarantee it will be gone for ever it looks so much better im going back to the gym this weeks but real light mine also from puberty the best $2600 i spent my hole life
 
It can come back if they missed any part of the gland. Anywho, gyno varies a lot. I ALWAYS got puffy nips when using test in my stack and some fatty tissue, but never a lump. Puffy nips and you might as well gave true gyno, as it looks just as bad.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
It can come back if they missed any part of the gland. Anywho, gyno varies a lot. I ALWAYS got puffy nips when using test in my stack and some fatty tissue, but never a lump. Puffy nips and you might as well gave true gyno, as it looks just as bad.
Click to expand...

i have puffy nips just naturally and I HATE it with a passion - damn genetics.

I am using T-Rex, AIFM, and YES to help get rid of the puffyness - right now is the best they have looked EVER
 
Mr.X said:
I've had gyno come back even after surgery - so be careful...
Click to expand...


case closed!!!! and yes i did have the surgery myself! IM is just a trouble maker on all the boards
 
NickyE3 said:
i have puffy nips just naturally and I HATE it with a passion - damn genetics.

I am using T-Rex, AIFM, and YES to help get rid of the puffyness - right now is the best they have looked EVER
Click to expand...

For me letro, arimadex, nolva, none of them every got ride of puffy nips on test for me. I always looked my best when I did not use test in a stack, but like an idiot I listened to everyone on the boards who said "no add test back in, you have to have test in your stack to make good gains" instead of just listening to my body, so I would toss in 50 mg of prop a day with letro and nolva and watch my nipps puff back up and pickup about 10 lbs of water within a week.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
For me letro, arimadex, nolva, none of them every got ride of puffy nips on test for me. I always looked my best when I did not use test in a stack, but like an idiot I listened to everyone on the boards who said "no add test back in, you have to have test in your stack to make good gains" instead of just listening to my body, so I would toss in 50 mg of prop a day with letro and nolva and watch my nipps puff back up and pickup about 10 lbs of water within a week.
Click to expand...
After your off the test does it go away or do they stay puffy?
 
juntao said:
case closed!!!! and yes i did have the surgery myself! IM is just a trouble maker on all the boards
Click to expand...

case closed? lmao.. Gyno can not come back after gland is removed. I went to 3 top surgeons in my state for advice/feedback, and all said the same thing. Your surgeon must have been a moron if it came back.. Ive done the homework on this procedure..

And as for puffy nipples, like I said, this is sometimes caused by a buildup of fatty tissue deposits. If you are prone to getting fat, yes the fatty tissue under the nipples can come back and cause the puffiness associated with gyno. Only lipo will get rid of that..

as for being a trouble maker, why not back up some of your statements instead of just insinuating that it will come back. You sound more and more like an idiot..
 
elitetoxin said:
yea, sure it can come back .. the gland is like a seed .. they ususally leave a lil bit behind right behind the nipple to avoid it from 'falling in' and giving an unnatural look.

I just read elsewhere that recommended offtime from chest related excersise is 3-4 weeks ... you gotta be kidding me .. allright, all the reasons listed has to do with bleedings/fluids etc.. nothing much about the scarring..

i use this surgery-tape to keep the skin from not stretching ... however anyone's got bad scarring from a gynoop ?
Click to expand...

lmao..where do you guys get this information from. A surgeon doesnt leave a little bit of anything behind to avoid it from falling in. After surgery you are given a compression vest to wear to keep everything tight. This is the most important part of the surgery. I wore mine for almost 4 weeks. I didnt go back to the gym for almost 6 weeks, but that was by choice. I did go back to work a few days after surgery.

As for scarring, I was cut right across both nipples. You cant even tell.. I would recommend this procedure to anyone. Ive heard people talk on here saying some surgeons wont completely remove the gland? Why? I trusted all 3 opinions on this procedure, gland wont come back if completely removed. I dont care what anyone says..
 
mookie said:
After your off the test does it go away or do they stay puffy?
Click to expand...

It would be gone within 2 weeks after coming off prop. Longer on enathate or cyp. I had done stacks as high as 100mg of tren a day and 600 mg of eq a week without so much as a drop of water under the nips, but 200 mg of enathate a week and it would slow come back.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
lmao..where do you guys get this information from. A surgeon doesnt leave a little bit of anything behind to avoid it from falling in. After surgery you are given a compression vest to wear to keep everything tight. This is the most important part of the surgery. I wore mine for almost 4 weeks. I didnt go back to the gym for almost 6 weeks, but that was by choice. I did go back to work a few days after surgery.

As for scarring, I was cut right across both nipples. You cant even tell.. I would recommend this procedure to anyone. Ive heard people talk on here saying some surgeons wont completely remove the gland? Why? I trusted all 3 opinions on this procedure, gland wont come back if completely removed. I dont care what anyone says..
Click to expand...

lmao .. dude.. we get that information from our DOCS .. you know, those who's yielding the blades on our torsos ?
However you wanna describe it, here's what my doc, the one who cut me, told me, he's going to leave a lilttle bit there, right behind the nipple, for appearence sake! Apparently if he removes it ALL, it will look unnatural.
No, i did not just take his word for it, i fuckinggoogleditman, and yea, that seems to be how its done!

0.01secs of googling
http://www.ricksilverman.com/gyno_faqs.html

Q: Once you've removed the lump, what's the likelihood of it returning?

A: Well, remember that button of tissue I talked about--the tissue I leave under the nipple. That tissue contains the same elements which can be stimulated again if, for example, a guy starts taking steroids again. So it can come back. Interestingly, one of the first patients I operated on is a fellow who was in his early 40's when I did his surgery. He hadn't used steroids for about 5 years. His surgery went well. I did a little touch up liposuction of his chest the following year, and then I didn't see him for a couple of years. When he showed up next time, he had bigger breasts than he'd had the very first time I saw him. After making sure that nothing else was wrong with him, it seemed that the likely cause of his recurrence was his dropping testosterone levels associated with aging. He was a victim of his own body's hormonal back-fire.


Q: With no medical treatment available, is surgery the only way to get rid of gynecomastia?

A: Yes. In most cases, the surgery can be performed as an outpatient procedure, using local anesthesia with some sedation or a light general anesthetic. The surgeon may cut out the "tumor" directly, going through an incision along the edge of the areola, or liposuction may be used. When direct excision is used, a button of tissue must be left under the nipple to prevent it from dying due to loss of it's blood supply, and also to keep it from caving in and leaving a depression on the chest wall.

So .. i guess its places like that we get our information from!

Aiiight
 
elitetoxin said:
lmao .. dude.. we get that information from our DOCS .. you know, those who's yielding the blades on our torsos ?
However you wanna describe it, here's what my doc, the one who cut me, told me, he's going to leave a lilttle bit there, right behind the nipple, for appearence sake! Apparently if he removes it ALL, it will look unnatural.
No, i did not just take his word for it, i fuckinggoogleditman, and yea, that seems to be how its done!

0.01secs of googling
http://www.ricksilverman.com/gyno_faqs.html

Q: Once you've removed the lump, what's the likelihood of it returning?

A: Well, remember that button of tissue I talked about--the tissue I leave under the nipple. That tissue contains the same elements which can be stimulated again if, for example, a guy starts taking steroids again. So it can come back. Interestingly, one of the first patients I operated on is a fellow who was in his early 40's when I did his surgery. He hadn't used steroids for about 5 years. His surgery went well. I did a little touch up liposuction of his chest the following year, and then I didn't see him for a couple of years. When he showed up next time, he had bigger breasts than he'd had the very first time I saw him. After making sure that nothing else was wrong with him, it seemed that the likely cause of his recurrence was his dropping testosterone levels associated with aging. He was a victim of his own body's hormonal back-fire.


Q: With no medical treatment available, is surgery the only way to get rid of gynecomastia?

A: Yes. In most cases, the surgery can be performed as an outpatient procedure, using local anesthesia with some sedation or a light general anesthetic. The surgeon may cut out the "tumor" directly, going through an incision along the edge of the areola, or liposuction may be used. When direct excision is used, a button of tissue must be left under the nipple to prevent it from dying due to loss of it's blood supply, and also to keep it from caving in and leaving a depression on the chest wall.

So .. i guess its places like that we get our information from!

Aiiight
Click to expand...


lmao.. Your doctor told you he is leaving some gyno for apperance sake! Sounds like someone I would like to see.. :rolleyes: What did he charge you $1500??

My point exactly.. You just answered your own question..He didnt remove the gland completely, so yes it will come back. Leaving part of the gland for apperance sake is nonsense.. Any doctor will tell you its the after surgery is the most important part.. Keeping everything tight, bandage, etc.. I have no indents, bruising, and very little scarring.. Sounds too me like your doctor wants you to keep coming back to him for the procedure.. Why not get a 2nd and 3rd opinion and see what they say? It seems you went to the first doctor and didnt care what anyone else thinks..
 
It should be noted that there will be scar tissue buildup behind the nipple that will keep it from completely becomming "indented."

I'm having it done soon and will be having complete glandular removal with as much estrogen fingers (that extend to the outside of the chest) taken out as well.

BMJ
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
lmao.. Your doctor told you he is leaving some gyno for apperance sake! Sounds like someone I would like to see.. :rolleyes: What did he charge you $1500??

My point exactly.. You just answered your own question..He didnt remove the gland completely, so yes it will come back. Leaving part of the gland for apperance sake is nonsense.. Any doctor will tell you its the after surgery is the most important part.. Keeping everything tight, bandage, etc.. I have no indents, bruising, and very little scarring.. Sounds too me like your doctor wants you to keep coming back to him for the procedure.. Why not get a 2nd and 3rd opinion and see what they say? It seems you went to the first doctor and didnt care what anyone else thinks..
Click to expand...

-allright
-apply logic
-IF there is no gland to begin with, gyno cannot occur!
-Since gyno DO occur, that means that we're all born with a lil sumthin' right there doesnt it.
-What do doc leaves behing, i'm reasoning, is what would be there naturally without our dumbasses enhancing it!

And I did my research first, sounds like someone else didnt do theirs!

And while not conclusive what does 10seconds of browsing this tell you!
http://www.google.com/search?q=gyno...=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:da:official&hs=b0C

what does that tell you!
 
elitetoxin said:
-allright
-apply logic
-IF there is no gland to begin with, gyno cannot occur!
-Since gyno DO occur, that means that we're all born with a lil sumthin' right there doesnt it.
-What do doc leaves behing, i'm reasoning, is what would be there naturally without our dumbasses enhancing it!

And I did my research first, sounds like someone else didnt do theirs!

And while not conclusive what does 10seconds of browsing this tell you!
http://www.google.com/search?q=gyno...=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:da:official&hs=b0C

what does that tell you!
Click to expand...

It tells me you didnt research it throughougly enough.. Why work out on chest right after gyno surgery? First 2 weeks are most important, keeping everything tight with compression vest, and with bandages. Or didnt your doc tell you that? Mine told me at least 2 weeks before hitting gym again, I didnt go for almost 6 weeks.

As for your one side being more sore than the next. I had the same thing happen. My right side was more swollen, bruised and hurt more than the left. I asked my doc why, and he told me one reason is because you are right handed. Not saying this is what could be causing this on you, but thats what my doc told me.. I favor to do things with right hand, but that is normal with alot of people.. The blood clotting could be causing some of the pain/presssure too. I had some blood drained from my right side, and it felt 100x better when the blood was out..

Im not going to argue with you, Im speaking from experience and I did research this for awhile before I had it done. I am totally convinced mine wont come back.. I had 3 professional opinions, which was good enough for me..
 
what you have to realize is that when they do this surgery they usually try to keep the incision small, plus the gland does not necessarily stand out from the surrounding tissue like a straight guy at post-game women's basketball party. elements of the gland and ducts are interwoven in surrounding tissue and can extend well up towards the axilla armpit) beyond the region of the nipple. so even the best surgeons can miss some, it is niave to think anything is 100% guaranteed.
 
elitetoxin said:
its gone .. and i can honestly say that it has not been this flat since i was 13-14!

Allright, while the gyno is gone, i do have some "hard" stuff just underneath the nip area, moreso in the left side(3x3cm's), the nurse said it was normal when i was in to get the stitches out 1½ week later.. fluids and such!
Anyone else experience that ? if so, when did it dissapear?
I was back in the gym after having the stitches out(the next day), even a light chest workout .. just low range of motion, keeping out of the areas where it was uncomfortable and sore.
today it's 14 days ago, and its still sore, especially the left side.
suggestions ? should i've taken a longer break ?
Click to expand...

im interested in how much the surgery cost?
 
bmcadoo44 said:
im interested in how much the surgery cost?
Click to expand...


It ranges..ive seen them as high as $7500! I inquired about 6 years ago, and it was around $3000. I did mine this year, and it was $5500!
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
It tells me you didnt research it throughougly enough.. Why work out on chest right after gyno surgery? First 2 weeks are most important, keeping everything tight with compression vest, and with bandages. Or didnt your doc tell you that? Mine told me at least 2 weeks before hitting gym again, I didnt go for almost 6 weeks.

As for your one side being more sore than the next. I had the same thing happen. My right side was more swollen, bruised and hurt more than the left. I asked my doc why, and he told me one reason is because you are right handed. Not saying this is what could be causing this on you, but thats what my doc told me.. I favor to do things with right hand, but that is normal with alot of people.. The blood clotting could be causing some of the pain/presssure too. I had some blood drained from my right side, and it felt 100x better when the blood was out..

Im not going to argue with you, Im speaking from experience and I did research this for awhile before I had it done. I am totally convinced mine wont come back.. I had 3 professional opinions, which was good enough for me..
Click to expand...

Why work on the chest right after gyno surgery. That is stupid, and yes i coulda waited longer. But the doc actually told me ONE week of absolute rest and then i could ease very slowly back into it ... wich is what i've done ... after 1½ week, very light weights and high repping, raising by a pound or two each excersise. I choose this approach based on a few surveys i did on guys like us... you know, some are back in the gym 48hours later ? (just dont go full ROM is the advice) .. so i've settled somewhere in the middle.. usually a good place to start.
Now i did have a very mild case of gyno(i see teens with much much worse shit than i had), maybe that has something to do with the recommendation from the doc .. i dunno.

And acutally it was on my left side, and i am right handed. But i see the argument as very plausable. guess its just the odds.

If you had blood drained, i can certainly appreciate your standpoint a whole lot more...

as for the removal of all the gland or not, i've been thinking a bit about that. You are in the states right ? Im in europe. It's very plausable that there's different 'schools' on the subject depending on our latitude/longitude coordinates. What may be the correct way of doing it here may very well differ from what is the right way of doing it over there.
Yet knowing how it usually works, whats right over there will, in time, migrate over here as well.
Guess it's all about playing the odd's .. even in an argument ..

BUT .. if i read about peeps getting their glands cut here in about 10 years, ill dig this thread up and give you some credit ;)
 
bmcadoo44 said:
im interested in how much the surgery cost?
Click to expand...

I really dont get it .. our cars are 5x the price of yours .. but our plastic surgery is ½ ... guess we got alot of docs in the wild looking to cut ppl (why they dont move overthere is beyond me)
But i gave around 1800$ in converted currency.
 
elitetoxin said:
Why work on the chest right after gyno surgery. That is stupid, and yes i coulda waited longer. But the doc actually told me ONE week of absolute rest and then i could ease very slowly back into it ... wich is what i've done ... after 1½ week, very light weights and high repping, raising by a pound or two each excersise. I choose this approach based on a few surveys i did on guys like us... you know, some are back in the gym 48hours later ? (just dont go full ROM is the advice) .. so i've settled somewhere in the middle.. usually a good place to start.
Now i did have a very mild case of gyno(i see teens with much much worse shit than i had), maybe that has something to do with the recommendation from the doc .. i dunno.

And acutally it was on my left side, and i am right handed. But i see the argument as very plausable. guess its just the odds.

If you had blood drained, i can certainly appreciate your standpoint a whole lot more...

as for the removal of all the gland or not, i've been thinking a bit about that. You are in the states right ? Im in europe. It's very plausable that there's different 'schools' on the subject depending on our latitude/longitude coordinates. What may be the correct way of doing it here may very well differ from what is the right way of doing it over there.
Yet knowing how it usually works, whats right over there will, in time, migrate over here as well.
Guess it's all about playing the odd's .. even in an argument ..

BUT .. if i read about peeps getting their glands cut here in about 10 years, ill dig this thread up and give you some credit ;)
Click to expand...


That would explain alot being in different countries, never thought about that.. Im glad we could come to some type of agreement! :)
 
How much was your surgery? Did you use your insurance company?

If so, which insurance do you have?
 
AAP said:
How much was your surgery? Did you use your insurance company?

If so, which insurance do you have?
Click to expand...

If you are referring to me, mine was $5500. And yes, my insurance covered operation. My surgeon said he would make certain they cover it. I just have a basic PPOM nothing fancy! I work for carpenters union for side work, and you have to work 140 hours/month for insurance.. I worked the hours, scheduled operation and had it done before insurance lapsed. :) Mine actually expired day after operation!

There was a breast cancer act passed in the US in 98 I believe, and this now falls somewhere inbetween this act.. I pulled out insurance bill, and it has a paragraph or so stating this! Both my glands were tested for cancer, which is standard procedure, and both were binai.
 
Not many people are still around from 6 years ago. Maybe you should make a thread of your own, or research the more recent gyno threads.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

jerseyshoremuscle
New cycle
Replies
0
Views
1K
jerseyshoremuscle
jerseyshoremuscle
Fella Finn
Approved Domestic Supply Product of the week: Spectrum Pharma Boldenone Undecylenate (Equipoise) 300! 20% OFF!
Replies
5
Views
310
chesty
chesty
Fella Finn
Approved Domestic Supply Product of the week is Spectrum Pharma Boldenone Undecylenate (Equipoise) 300 MG/ML 20% OFF!
Replies
11
Views
1K
zedhed
zedhed
Fella Finn
Approved Domestic Supply Product of the week: Spectrum Pharma Boldenone Undecylenate (Equipoise) 300! 20% OFF!
Replies
6
Views
515
ROIDDERS
ROIDDERS
Dogbreath
Approved Log TRT Training and cycles log
2 3 4 5
Replies
486
Views
43K
the_alcatraz
the_alcatraz
Top Bottom