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Gyno reversal possible?

sparetire

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Okay, it's been almost 5 weeks since the start of my battle against tren gyno and I'm starting to feel like it's a losing battle. The mass behind my right nip is more noticeable now and it feels a little harder. I'm running AIFM, 1mg adex, 40mgs nolva ed. I'm waiting on my shipment of nolva/letro to arrive and I will try that for the next month. But, I'm starting to think that if the size doesn't change within another 3-4 weeks, I think that I am opting for the 4k surgery :p

So now that you've heard my history, here's my question: Has anyone who is currently reading this successfully reversed gyno? I'm not talking about the itchy or small pains - i'm talking about an actual mass behind the nip

here are pics of what I am currently dealing with :

relaxed state:

http://www.darkmantis.com/gyn1.jpg
http://www.darkmantis.com/gyn2.jpg

once the air hits them:

http://www.darkmantis.com/abflex.jpg

As you can see, it isn't as bad on the last pic, but its there.

I'm just wondering if I am wasting my time trying to battle this chemically rather than just get the financing and have the surgery done.

All your suggestions / help is most appreciated! :)
 
Like I told you in my PM, it's possible, but not guaranteed. Rather try to get rid of it yourself then go under the knife.
 
Mr.X said:
Like I told you in my PM, it's possible, but not guaranteed. Rather try to get rid of it yourself then go under the knife.


I know Mr.x, but I wanted to hear actual people's stories who have had success with reversal. I was searching through so many other sites last night looking for that one guy who has had success with this, and I found none except for those stories that were, "I know a guy" or "i heard that my buddy's friend actually..."

it just sucks! My emotions are rollercoasting and i'm starting to doubt science now.. Oh gawd, now I know what women must feel like at that time of the month! :mix:
 
^lol, bodybuilders tend to be a little obbssesed with the details. If you had gyno you would want it gone too, regardless of how unnoticeable it is to others.

Having said that, yeah, really don't notice anything in those pics. You may want to re-think the surgury option, Have heard some horror stories.

You should raise the nolva to 60 mg ed for a month and see what happens. I tried 50 mg each day for 2 months (for gyno from puberty) and didn't notice anything. Our situations are different though. Yours is relatively knew while mine is 10 years old.
 
I've had the early stages of gyno and reversed it with adex and high doses of nolva. But there wasn't a lump yet. Out of curiousity, were you on any ancillaries like dostinex or arimidex when tren gave you gyno?
 
mendo said:
I've had the early stages of gyno and reversed it with adex and high doses of nolva. But there wasn't a lump yet. Out of curiousity, were you on any ancillaries like dostinex or arimidex when tren gave you gyno?

i usually take .5 of adex or 20mgs of nolva e0d during cycle to combat against water bloat etc, especially when running test. I didn't have any dost on hand, so when the tren symptoms started, i tried my best to stop it from going any further, but nothing worked. I do have dostinex now, but unfortunately, the damage is done. There is a small mass behind the right nip, about half of a grape

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about that thick between the lines. On the top down picture that I did, you can clearly see the cone shape forming, but it is actually more prominant than what it was in that picture. My nips use to be relatively small and the areola was completely flat with the chest - now - stimulated or not - it's raised and you can see the nips more now through a t-shirt. I know most won't notice it, but I notice it, and that's a world's difference to me ;p So, I'm trying to hang in here and do this chemically, but just out of curiousity, I just had to ask if anyone had any luck with reversing a small lump. I'll bump it to 60 mgs a day with Mr. X recommendation of letro 1.25 ed. And btw, X, i'm not on Clomid! I tried that crap the first week when the symptoms started and wow, total depression, mood swings..woo hoo! never again will I use clomid! ugh! Well, atleast my sex drive is back somewhat..I think I lost my sex drive from the tren and not the e's. thnx guys for the input.
 
sparetire said:
Okay, it's been almost 5 weeks since the start of my battle against tren gyno and I'm starting to feel like it's a losing battle. The mass behind my right nip is more noticeable now and it feels a little harder. I'm running AIFM, 1mg adex, 40mgs nolva ed. I'm waiting on my shipment of nolva/letro to arrive and I will try that for the next month. But, I'm starting to think that if the size doesn't change within another 3-4 weeks, I think that I am opting for the 4k surgery :p

So now that you've heard my history, here's my question: Has anyone who is currently reading this successfully reversed gyno? I'm not talking about the itchy or small pains - i'm talking about an actual mass behind the nip

here are pics of what I am currently dealing with :

relaxed state:

http://www.darkmantis.com/gyn1.jpg
http://www.darkmantis.com/gyn2.jpg

once the air hits them:

http://www.darkmantis.com/abflex.jpg

As you can see, it isn't as bad on the last pic, but its there.

I'm just wondering if I am wasting my time trying to battle this chemically rather than just get the financing and have the surgery done.

All your suggestions / help is most appreciated! :)

Bro, it doesn't look bad! I have definitely seen worse! I say give letrozole and nolva a try and see what happens. It might take some time but I think it is possible. I thought the AIFM was effective until I reacted to it! What are your results with AIFM?
 
cougar8 said:
Bro, it doesn't look bad! I have definitely seen worse! I say give letrozole and nolva a try and see what happens. It might take some time but I think it is possible. I thought the AIFM was effective until I reacted to it! What are your results with AIFM?


It's hard to get the right angle to show the full size of the gyno. AIFM has been working for me, but apparently, nothing has worked so far, that's why I am adding letro to the mix.
 
sparetire said:
It's hard to get the right angle to show the full size of the gyno. AIFM has been working for me, but apparently, nothing has worked so far, that's why I am adding letro to the mix.

I say Letro is a good choice. I have some coming in since AIFM is out of the question for me! :worried: Hopefully it will be affective.
 
letrozole is much more suppressive of oestrogen than AIFM (ATD). ATD only suppresses aromatase. Letrozole suppresses aromatase and sulftase. You can achieve 99+% suppression with letro.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
letrozole is much more suppressive of oestrogen than AIFM (ATD). ATD only suppresses aromatase. Letrozole suppresses aromatase and sulftase. You can achieve 99+% suppression with letro.

so u would say letro is a lot better than AIFM?
 
well bro, i can tell you from my "personal" experience that once you get the actual mass and or lump under there, nothing will make it go away.....mine will fluctuate with size, flare up on certain aas, but i honestly don't see ANY WAY you can take anything that will dissolved a mass of tissue in your body...surgery is all there is in my oppinion

now now saying very early stages can't be fixed, because i think they are nothign more than a flare up, but if you got teh big lump....you got it
 
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