GTP 500mg EQ

[Ulter]

10 percent is to be expected. I think if they tested 10 other vials you'd surely see a 10%+/- just like you do the pharms. THAT's 100% in practical terms. Just like when a doctor wants you to get 250mg/wk of test and gives you sust that only has 180mg. If the doctor changes you to enanthate he won't adjust the dose on your script or your chart. It will stay say 250mg.

 

[Guvna]

I think if they tested 10 other vials you'd surely see a 10%+/-

From what I have seen throught this history of UG labs, and in the type of batches they make their gear, I do not agree.

 

[Indy]

just in case anybody cares, it is not the 8% that bothers me, it is the fact that they know EXACTLY what they hell they are doing when it is x% under. It is no accident. it is deliberate, and THAT i do not like.

However, 8% on 500mg eq seems a lot worse to me than 8% on something like test at 200mgs/ml.

8% shafts you 400mgs total, which is a weeks worth of gear for most.

I'm not here to take sides or start shit but Guvna I agree with what you are saying, they probably do know, it's a business like anyother, and we as the consumer are getting the raw end of the deal. They underdose just abit so we still see results, but that 8% or so less adds up overtime so they can sell it later. It's like the banks, you make a xfer and the money disappears for 24 hours, they invest it for 24 hours while it's "in transit", make a few bucks, then the original amount goes back into your account, you dont get interest or profit, they do.......With that said, I still stand by what I said earlier in this thread, quality gear, great results from it. So it's a tad undersdosed, but I know it's real, not faked, and it's safe. I tend to try and stay with a particular lab when I know it's trusted, dont want fakes or infections...and the source stands behind his gear, very important to me as well.

 

[Ulter]

I have done over 100 tests for everyone from Redi-Cat and Satch to Bill Lewellyn. So I have stand by my own history and not yours. OOOXXX

 

[bigtravis]

so the bottle labeled "nandrolone deconate" had eq in it? Thats not very good.


Also, 458mgs is not 500 mgs.

thats about 90%, which, at first glance, is pretty good. However, I look at it like this: (Some people may, some people may not.)

guy makes 100 bottles of 500mg eq, at lets just say he sells them for 170 bucks a piece. But he only puts 458mgs in them. That give him an extra 10 bottles of juice, with 100% profit. So, instead of making $17,000, he makes $18,700, at YOUR expense, on something YOU paid for. All while being "within acceptable range." Sounds like a pretty damn good deal for GTP. Sorry, if I pay for 500mgs, I want 500. But that is just me, if 458 is good enough for all of, then thats great for you.


IMO, if you are an UG lab, you should be testing ALL your batches of products to make sure you have the LABELLED dose.

we've had words before but i agree with you 100%. whats the point. in my eyes it is better to loose 1500-2000 and have a better quality product and in the long run you'll profit more. look at BD. thats what has made them so popular. you know exactly what you are getting. VETABOLICS is coming out with all 20ml. bottles soon and i can assure everyone that when the label says boldenone 300mg. or npp 150mg. then thats what will be in it.

 

[DieselGunz]

Wow this is a very informative thread

 

[UA_Iron]

the mechanics involved in producing accurately dosed gear is not some mysterious unobtainable goal. Purely simpleton math.

Plus wouldnt a good lab get their own stuff tested and then make necessary compensations?

Then ultimately a cost-benefit analysis would lead you to the conclusion that even if your gear was 50% underdosed but you paid 65% less than GTP products you'd still be getting a better deal.

is there anything else I should point out?

 

[Indy]

the mechanics involved in producing accurately dosed gear is not some mysterious unobtainable goal. Purely simpleton math.

Plus wouldnt a good lab get their own stuff tested and then make necessary compensations?

Then ultimately a cost-benefit analysis would lead you to the conclusion that even if your gear was 50% underdosed but you paid 65% less than GTP products you'd still be getting a better deal.

is there anything else I should point out?

I think it's obvious to most......

 

[Ulter]

I get the idea you guys don't know the limitations of the people making this gear. There isn't a single advanced chemistry degree among any of the UG gear manufacturers. And many brands are made by the same couple guys.

 

[Indy]

I get the idea you guys don't know the limitations of the people making this gear. There isn't a single advanced chemistry degree among any of the UG gear manufacturers. And many brands are made by the same couple guys.

That's why I am more for the fact I trust their gear, and I know it's legit. The fact that it's tested and I know it's a little underdosed, means I can compensate for that, I dont want to test every batch I buy to see if it's legit, so I try to stick with what I know is real and safe. 8% is not shit to me.....in the big scheme of things