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truckdaddy
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tgriff said:
i thought forest could have done better.....i am a big fan, but im not sure how he would fair with some of the big names. I hope im wrong. I wanted to see him finish bonner.
Anthony Starks
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truckdaddy said:
Really? You're not sure how he would fair against someone like Liddell? He would get knocked the fuck out.
truckdaddy
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Anthony Starks said:
at this point, he could not hang. Not enough speed
split endz
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Agree that he has improved, and agree that he is still just a mediocre fighter... not a contender
straightnasty
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rashad evans showed what a good wrestler will do to bonners standup as he smoked him and if tito would have shot more against forrest and tried to take forrest down like he did shamrock he would destroy forrest also. only a select few can survive with just the standup game. chuck is one because his takedown defense is the best.
FatherMike
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I do think he has improved, but he does have a long way to go before he could even think about a title shot. If he keeps surrounding himself with good fighters though, he is well on his way...
Snarling Force
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He even admitted on the microphone after the fight when he is done his closing the eyes and ducking and swinging wildly, then he'll be ready for a title match. I think he has a lot to learn.
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The Shadow
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I personally thought he won the Ortiz fight.....
save the last few socnds of the last round - Ortiz could not even take him down...Unanimous decsion??
No way
save the last few socnds of the last round - Ortiz could not even take him down...Unanimous decsion??
No way
truckdaddy
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The Shadow said:
the ground and pound won in round 1 gave tito the fight, forest lost.
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The Shadow
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truckdaddy said:
I agree with Round 1.......I stated that it should not have been all three rounds though
truckdaddy
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The Shadow said:
sure but......tito won, fair and square
Snarling Force said:
that's why I like Forrest
it's nothing to do with him as a fighter, but he's so damned HONEST
as for his improvement yes I agree
he has improved a lot
I think Stephan needs to consider altering schools
it's not that where he trains isn't any good but I think he's gotten all he can out of them it's time to move on
second point, I'd like to see Rashad fight Forrest
Rashad and Forrest both have Decission wins over Stephan so it's a natural fight
I think Rashad would walk all over Griffen
I noticed that to
the first fight Stephan pushed the whole thing the second Forrest was the one almost constantly moving forward
it's possible that the loss of Gracie had a bigger impact on Stephan but I think it is time to try other trainers anyway, people can settle into a groove, it dosnt mean his trainers arn't good but different trainers would see different weaknesses he has to work on and improve
the first fight Stephan pushed the whole thing the second Forrest was the one almost constantly moving forward
it's possible that the loss of Gracie had a bigger impact on Stephan but I think it is time to try other trainers anyway, people can settle into a groove, it dosnt mean his trainers arn't good but different trainers would see different weaknesses he has to work on and improve
redsamurai
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Kane Fan said:
really? because I think Rashad SUCKS ASS!! I was not impressed in the slightest with his win over bonner.....nor his TUF win. The guy is strong and can take someone down....after that he's useless. Both of forrests wins over bonner, while not "that" impressive, were way more impressive than rashads win. Rashad has no ground and pound...and no standup. Forrest will be a conteder before Rashad.
well I notice this a lot, people usually don't get impressed by Rashad, and that makes people (other fighters) kind of overlook him
but he wins a lot
I mean I'm not saying I think Rashad is some MMA-second coming of Fedor or anything like this, but I think he could take Forrest
in my opinion Rashad should work on submission defence and GnP as his win style but really he'll do fine if he works it like Chuck
striking and avoiding the ground, or if striking is looking pretty even he can just land a takedown, score a few weak shots even to get in the judges head that he did SOMETHING after the takedown, then stand it back up
an unimpressive win still keeps a loss off of your scoresheet you know what I mean?
but he wins a lot
I mean I'm not saying I think Rashad is some MMA-second coming of Fedor or anything like this, but I think he could take Forrest
in my opinion Rashad should work on submission defence and GnP as his win style but really he'll do fine if he works it like Chuck
striking and avoiding the ground, or if striking is looking pretty even he can just land a takedown, score a few weak shots even to get in the judges head that he did SOMETHING after the takedown, then stand it back up
an unimpressive win still keeps a loss off of your scoresheet you know what I mean?
Anthony Starks
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Kane Fan said:
umm, yeah but who else on the planet can hit like Chuck?!?
redsamurai
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Anthony Starks said:
you mean in the light heavy weight class right?....cause there's a couple guys in pride who are scary.....tyson in his prime scary.
redsamurai
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Kane Fan said:
you're right. If they fought right now it would be close.....I'm still under the impression that Tito had a really off day, that's why he couldn't take grif down. But a Tito on an off day still has better take down than rashad.....if Grif can sprawl Rashad, his striking is an order of magnitude better. A similiar match, and I similiar only because of the styles involved....would be Liddell/Randleman
redsamurai
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Kane Fan said:
a very true statement.....I just used that fight as an example of what a vastly superior striker with an excellent sprawl can do to a wrestler.
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