Grandpa Cycle: Eq based

[thelion2005]

Monday April 16th begins Week 5. I an finally beginning to see some differences in body weight, amount lifted and size. This cycle is slow and there is a great temptation to up the dosages and/or frequency of injections to get that BANG that comes with test+deca+dbol.

Eq (LSP brand): 200 mg Sun PM and Thursday AM for a total of 400 mg p/w.
Test P (Farmak): 100 mg Sun/Thurs for a total of 200 mg p/w.
Tbol (BD): 30 mg p/d for a total of 210 mg p/w
AAS weekly total of 810 mg

HGH: 1 iu eod
a-dex: 0.5 mg Sun/Thurs

A few comments:
- Got just the hint of a hammy cramp last night. Got a cramp this morning when I was sitting up in one upper ab muscle. I was able to massage it away and it did HURT! This is my punishment for not upping my water.

- Picked up 2 pounds of body weight after seeing nothing for 6 days. I was delighted to see upper arms and calves come up. Great places to see that added bw.

- Don't dismiss tbol as weak. I can feel even a 5 mg increase in my system and emotions.

- I am having no injection site problems with the mix of eq and testp. Right cheek/left cheek with a 23g 1 1/2 ".

- Oily skin but no zits.

- No joint pain relief like deca.

- No "high" where you feel like an animal and throw the weights around. Sleepy a lot.

That's it for this report.

 

[mastropiece]

Thanks for the great info Lion. I need to know after a cycle like that, will you go back to hrt doses of test hgh? (you do the compounding cream right?)Will you do some hcg and clomid to recover your natural test?

I need to decide when I am off of this test,hgh,nan,var cycle to go back down to hrt doses of test 100 mg week or just stop the test and do some hcg and clomid for 6 weeks so that I don't fuck up my natural test production. I have been on test hrt dose for a year and a half now. I am 49. On this cycle I am doing 200 mg test and 200mg nandrolone twice a week.
any comments appreciated
Mastro

 

[SpyWizard]

I'll wade in, since i am a grandpa x2....

but i'm only 46.. i would suggest that you run the gh 2iu ed 5/2 off..

add some hcg 250iu eod and i'd have no complaints in regards to your cycle with your age.. and run the gh next time 2 months before you do the cycle, then continue for a total of 6 months.. recovery will be very easy..

congrats..

 

[Mr. MB]

On your next blood workup have them check your RBC. Something we cogers who "suppliment" must be aware of. Gotta watch mine like a hawk. My lady has had a stroke and we sure don't need two under same roof.

 

[thelion2005]

Thanks for the great info Lion. I need to know after a cycle like that, will you go back to hrt doses of test hgh? (you do the compounding cream right?)Will you do some hcg and clomid to recover your natural test?

I need to decide when I am off of this test,hgh,nan,var cycle to go back down to hrt doses of test 100 mg week or just stop the test and do some hcg and clomid for 6 weeks so that I don't fuck up my natural test production. I have been on test hrt dose for a year and a half now. I am 49. On this cycle I am doing 200 mg test and 200mg nandrolone twice a week.
any comments appreciated
Mastro

I bounce back and forth ... HRT for 8-12 weeks, cycle for 8-12 weeks. I need at least 75 mg of test p/w to be within range of just that measure.

 

[thelion2005]

Tomorrow is beginning of week 6. I feel a lot better ... sides are really down. This is the most total aas p/w I've taken and I felt whacked out, stiff and sore a lot. That is gone.

Not making any huge gains. This is slow. I pick up maybe 5 pounds a week in major lifts. No increase in body weight, but I look a lot "harder". Getting looks from the general public.

Must have patience. I'll stick it out.

 

[motodawg]

Hey bro long time no see, i've been doing 200 mg test cyp E4D and 300mg Eq E4D and i'm doing 10 mg d-bol p/d. I'm 14 weeks into a 16 wk cycle the joint pain will go away with the Eq at the dose your running, i threw in some hcg and proviron at week 6 through 10 and i'm tired a lot o also 2 iu HGH 5/2. I'm up from 185 to 205 well see how much i keep when i go back to HRT doses....later..... moto o i just turned 50 - 3 weeks ago not a grandpa yet and in no hurry lloll

 

[thelion2005]

Beginning of week 7 tomorrow, April 30.

Body weight is the same. However, weight being used in exercises keeps improving in very small amounts. Sometimes just a rep more at the same weight of the last session.

For example: I do incline db curls from a dead stop at the bottom. When I move up from 4 reps to 6, I know it is a true strength increase. This is happening. However, no big jumps on the compound movements like deca and dbol and test gives you. Maybe 5 lbs or a rep or two.

I ache a lot after a workout in the targeted areas. And it seems never to heal. It is not muscle or joint damage ... it just aches like overuse. This stack is different.

No "dick" problems, but animal desire is way down. Maybe I'm a little burned out.

No injection or site problems at all. Greasy skin and random zits went away. Seeing Dr on Tuesday so I'll get some other feed back like bp, which has been over 150 and 80.

 

[tommyguns2]

Lion,

Thanks for the update. Interesting to hear your results, because I felt the same things. My strength went up a little, my libido hung in there, but cooled a bit, and I did feel the same aches you referred to. I attributed it to the var, since some people say that does the same as winnie, but I had dropped the var and kept in the EQ, and the aches didn't go away. I finished the EQ about 3 weeks ago, and only now am I starting to feel better. I wonder if its the EQ.

Good luck, and thanks again for the progress report.

Beginning of week 7 tomorrow, April 30.

Body weight is the same. However, weight being used in exercises keeps improving in very small amounts. Sometimes just a rep more at the same weight of the last session.

For example: I do incline db curls from a dead stop at the bottom. When I move up from 4 reps to 6, I know it is a true strength increase. This is happening. However, no big jumps on the compound movements like deca and dbol and test gives you. Maybe 5 lbs or a rep or two.

I ache a lot after a workout in the targeted areas. And it seems never to heal. It is not muscle or joint damage ... it just aches like overuse. This stack is different.

No "dick" problems, but animal desire is way down. Maybe I'm a little burned out.

No injection or site problems at all. Greasy skin and random zits went away. Seeing Dr on Tuesday so I'll get some other feed back like bp, which has been over 150 and 80.

 

[thelion2005]

Week 8 coming up and I am bored. I guess I was spoiled by bulking stacks with a bigger andro punch to them. Anabolic is sloooooooow. Hopefully permanent.

My weight dropped 1 1/2 pounds while strength keeps creeping up a rep or a pound at a time. I have these pure exercises that are my guage and they do move up.

Aches come and go. It feels like I've overstretched all my joints. I hate that side effect. Greasy skin did go away.

I'm sleepy all the time. I mean ... fall asleep time in the middle of the day.

There is another posting about delayed orgasm side effect and I've got it. Nandos do this to me. Not deca dick ... but the need for longer periods of stimulation to achieve climax.

So I slipped in some Proviron, which in my mind is all androgenic. POW. Problem gone. But this contaminates the experiment and I'll only do them one week. I wanted to see the effects of a less androgenic stack ... and that is eq with a light test p chaser. Even the tbol is lighter androgenic.

Otherwise .... I'll stick it out. I also understand that eq is going to stay with me for many weeks after I stop. Should make my HRT base different in June.