Grandpa Cycle: Eq based

[thelion2005]

I've heard good things about Eq and, after reading a lot, have decided to use it in a cycle in a dominate position. It seems a smart product for the older male.

The cycle will be over 10 weeks and the stack will be:
- 300 mg p/w LSP Bold
- 150 mg p/w farmak test p
- 15 mg tbol p/d; 105 mg p/w
- 1.25 iu HGH eod
- 0.5 mg adex MWF

I'm at 210 and am looking for 215-220, which should be easily attained. I am very curious as to what composition changes I'll see and mood/libido changes. I'm not pushing the androgenic that much.

I did not like the traditional sides of a mass stack, especially the zits, the PSA jump, the cholesterol changes, increased BP and the impatience (border line aggression.).

Started Monday, March 19, 2007. Will report out periodically.

HRT on the shelf.

 

[mastropiece]

looks good lion I have used EQ in the past and got some striation and some stregnth. is the test prop?
what is the tbol I should know but I just can't think of it right now
I like the 10 weeks it takes me longer to "get going" on a cycle. 6-8 seems too short.
Mastro

 

[thelion2005]

looks good lion I have used EQ in the past and got some striation and some stregnth. is the test prop?
what is the tbol I should know but I just can't think of it right now
I like the 10 weeks it takes me longer to "get going" on a cycle. 6-8 seems too short.
Mastro

Test is Farmak Test p. It is great. Eg is LSP type.
tbol is turanabol from BD ... a kinder, gentler dbol.

It is reacting with my system now. BP up a bit and very horny. LOL
I have a new SO and she is going to be pleasantly surprised for the next 2-3 months. Then she'll steal my money and leave. LOL

Workout in the am Friday.

 

[mastropiece]

go man! go!

 

[rockabilly]

Lion, am also a 64 year old grandpa. I know you have done several cycles, how many pounds average have you been able to keep each time? My third cycle will be 500mg/wk. cyp. for 6-8 weeks. Will see if I can keep anything this time.

 

[thelion2005]

Lion, am also a 64 year old grandpa. I know you have done several cycles, how many pounds average have you been able to keep each time? My third cycle will be 500mg/wk. cyp. for 6-8 weeks. Will see if I can keep anything this time.

I keep 1/3 of my gains and have made steady progress raising my base weight from 185 to 207 over two years. I want 225.

During the cycle I make huge weight and strength gains like a lot of guys do. I have to watch for injuries because they obviosly bring progress to a halt.

 

[thelion2005]

First week behind me and there was a nice "flu" side I had to contend with. Body aches, grumpy, sweats ....

Body weight up 2 pounds and I can feel and see strength going up too.

Mood change is welcome. I have been feeling mellow the last two days.

I sleep like a rock. Can't recall dreams.

All in all, it is easy to see that this stack is much gentler on the systems. I'm going to tweak everything up 50 mg p/w and then just relax into a groove for 11 more weeks.

 

[tommyguns2]

Hey lion,

I'm on HRT at 200mg/wk test cyp, along with GH at 1IU/day. On Jan 1, I added EQ at 300mg/wk, and for 5-6 weeks felt no change (nothing negative, but no jump). EQ has an extremely long chain ester, and a relatively mild dose. At about 6 weeks, I upped my EQ to 450mg/wk, and added anavar at 50mg/day. Things then started to kick into gear. Strength increase and gained about 5 lbs. (was at 5'10" 230 @ 12% to about 235 @12%BF). Strength increase was good, but I think I got more from the var than the EQ. With EQ having the long ester you may wanna stay with the EQ for at least 12 weeks, and preferably 16.

With a test/EQ ratio at 1:1.5 my libido is fine, but not a horny lunatic. If you start to notice any sexual sides (decreased libido), you may want to alter your test/EQ ratio to closer to 1:1.

Right now you're seeing the test prop and tbol in action, I'll be curious to know whether your low dose EQ works for you.

First week behind me and there was a nice "flu" side I had to contend with. Body aches, grumpy, sweats ....

Body weight up 2 pounds and I can feel and see strength going up too.

Mood change is welcome. I have been feeling mellow the last two days.

I sleep like a rock. Can't recall dreams.

All in all, it is easy to see that this stack is much gentler on the systems. I'm going to tweak everything up 50 mg p/w and then just relax into a groove for 11 more weeks.

 

[thelion2005]

Hey lion,

I'm on HRT at 200mg/wk test cyp, along with GH at 1IU/day. On Jan 1, I added EQ at 300mg/wk, and for 5-6 weeks felt no change (nothing negative, but no jump). EQ has an extremely long chain ester, and a relatively mild dose. At about 6 weeks, I upped my EQ to 450mg/wk, and added anavar at 50mg/day. Things then started to kick into gear. Strength increase and gained about 5 lbs. (was at 5'10" 230 @ 12% to about 235 @12%BF). Strength increase was good, but I think I got more from the var than the EQ. With EQ having the long ester you may wanna stay with the EQ for at least 12 weeks, and preferably 16.

With a test/EQ ratio at 1:1.5 my libido is fine, but not a horny lunatic. If you start to notice any sexual sides (decreased libido), you may want to alter your test/EQ ratio to closer to 1:1.

Right now you're seeing the test prop and tbol in action, I'll be curious to know whether your low dose EQ works for you.

Good reply .. k to you.

Ana really works on me too. But cholesterol and bp and psa went crazy.

I'll run the eq longer as you said. I really hope this gives me what I am after with lower sides. I'll keep the Test p lower than the eq. I'm going to bump the tbol up 5 mg next week and hold at 20 mg perday. A few more weeks and then bump the test p and eq up a bit. Keep the grand weekly total at around 700.

This is pretty mild compared to test + nandro + dbol.

 

[thelion2005]

Tomorrow will be the beginning of my Fourth week of this stack. The main sides I can identify are achy joints and flu symptoms and poor appetite. These flu symptoms are going away and some acetaminophen helps with the joint pain. I eat 5 times a day and am getting plenty of protein. Big cravings for sugar junk.

Strength is now starting to slowly climb. Body weight went down and then came back up to 211. Odd.

The biggest difference I can feel with this stack is no BIG POW jump in power or size or mood. The lower andro of eq and t-bol are probably the reason. Any gains are slow and subtle. No big gain of bloat or water. Waist line is down a bit, even with the increased body weight. BP is comiong down from the 150 I hit on dbol and test. I want to see 125 while on this stack.

T-bol is much friendlier than dbol on my system and emotions. Less aggression and solid sleep. Dbol hits a lot harder.

Test p from Farmak and the LSP bold is great. Zero problems. Tbol is from BD and no problems.

I do miss the lessening of joint pain I experienced with deca. No "dick" problems with eq at all. Perhaps the test p is preventing that even though the dosage is less than the eq.

Weekly stack total has settled down to:
- 200 mg test p (50 eod)
- 500 mg eq (250 Sun and Thurs)
- 140 mg tbol ( 5mg X 4 ed)
- 1.25 iu HGH eod
- 0.5 a-dex MWF

I'll run this for a total of 12 weeks minimum. Have a feeling this will be a slow grind rather than a daily jump. I'm fighting for 1/8" gains rather than 1/2" jumps.