Got some dermacrine laying around...

[silverskyline]

NEGATIVE TEST testosterone cypionate....NO SUSTAIN THIS TIME AROUND

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/cycle-update-week-4-a-581741.html

I forget what are you runnin it with?

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

NEGATIVE TEST testosterone cypionate....NO SUSTAIN THIS TIME AROUND

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/cycle-update-week-4-a-581741.html

I forget what are you runnin it with?

LOL and I just saw that thread today too. I'm running test p, tren, and masteron. And even tho it sounds dumb I don't know the exact dosage as I got it from a friend (that I trust btw) and the vial has no label on it. Given what I know about the limits of mg per ml in oil suspensions, and the affects of different dosages of anabolics, and the fact that he told me it was double dosed (its from a UG that he had a long close relationship with so he could get special orders), I believe it to be 200mg test p, 200mg tren, and 200mg masteron per ML. I am doing 1/2cc every other day. So I am doing what I believe to be 350mg of each a week. Which given the affects so far I believe to be accurate. However it is possible that the masteron dose is actually half that but I have no real way to tell.

 

[silverskyline]

LOL and I just saw that thread today too. I'm running test p, trenbolone, and masteron. And even tho it sounds dumb I don't know the exact dosage as I got it from a friend (that I trust btw) and the vial has no label on it. Given what I know about the limits of mg per ml in oil suspensions, and the affects of different dosages of anabolics, and the fact that he told me it was double dosed (its from a UG that he had a long close relationship with so he could get special orders), I believe it to be 200mg test p, 200mg trenbolone, and 200mg masteron per ML. I am doing 1/2cc every other day. So I am doing what I believe to be 350mg of each a week. Which given the affects so far I believe to be accurate. However it is possible that the masteron dose is actually half that but I have no real way to tell.

fantastic I think I read that thread a while ago as well, think that was you.

Right on, have fun I'm out.

I'll keep posted

 

[needtogetaas]

It seems like from what I've read that you won't want to use dermacrine when you should be recovering because it will hinder recovery by continuing to suppress natural test. Whereas sustain alpha works more like HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - in that in stimulates more natural test production.

Na. You can use dermacrine reg starting right after your cycle for 4 weeks. Then switch to dermacrine sustain alpha for 4 weeks. Lots of people have don it like this with good results. Its a way to come off all the aas and still keep test and andro up well your body has a chance to reach homeostases after all the compounds clear. Then switch to dermacrine sustain to finish out the job. Its kind of like the pyramid idea only using dermacrine which is a lot easer to come off of then any aas would be.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

Na. You can use dermacrine reg starting right after your cycle for 4 weeks. Then switch to dermacrine sustain alpha for 4 weeks. Lots of people have don it like this with good results. Its a way to come off all the anabolic androgenic steroids and still keep test and andro up well your body has a chance to reach homeostases after all the compounds clear. Then switch to dermacrine sustain to finish out the job. Its kind of like the pyramid idea only using dermacrine which is a lot easer to come off of then any anabolic androgenic steroids would be.

So basically you wait to start any PCT until you start the sustain alpha?

 

[needtogetaas]

So basically you wait to start any PCT - post cycle therapy - until you start the sustain alpha?

Yes dermacrine sustain alpha is the pct to always use bro. The dermacrine reg would be more like a pree pct then any thing else. Kind of like how people use prov.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

So needto, which of these options do you think would give me the most benefit given what I currently have (keep in mind my biggest fear is losing the gains I'm getting on cycle so I want to do whatever will best keep them):

1. Run my 2 bottles of derma for the last 8 weeks of my cycle (4 weeks of my bulking phase and 4 weeks of my cutting phase), wait one week after last shot, then start H.C.G. and Nolv.aldex as per drjmw's p.c.t. plan along with sustain

2. Run 1 bottle of derma for the last 4 weeks of my cycle (this will be during my cutting phase), immediately run second bottle of derma, when 2nd bottle is empty start H.C.G. and Nolv.aldex as per drjmw's p.c.t. plan along with sustain

3. Run 1 bottle of derma for the middle 4 weeks of my cycle (this will be during my bulking phase), finish the last 4 weeks of the cycle, wait one week after last shot, then start H.C.G. and Nolv.aldex as per drjmw's p.c.t. plan along with sustain

 

[needtogetaas]

So needto, which of these options do you think would give me the most benefit given what I currently have (keep in mind my biggest fear is losing the gains I'm getting on cycle so I want to do whatever will best keep them):

1. Run my 2 bottles of derma for the last 8 weeks of my cycle (4 weeks of my bulking phase and 4 weeks of my cutting phase), wait one week after last shot, then start H.C.G. and Nolv.aldex as per drjmw's p.c.t. plan along with sustain

2. Run 1 bottle of derma for the last 4 weeks of my cycle (this will be during my cutting phase), immediately run second bottle of derma, when 2nd bottle is empty start H.C.G. and Nolv.aldex as per drjmw's p.c.t. plan along with sustain

3. Run 1 bottle of derma for the middle 4 weeks of my cycle (this will be during my bulking phase), finish the last 4 weeks of the cycle, wait one week after last shot, then start H.C.G. and Nolv.aldex as per drjmw's p.c.t. plan along with sustain

4 start hcg now run it 500uis ew till cycle is over. Run one bottle of derma last 4 weeks and the other 4weeks after. then do 4 weeks of sustain.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

Well the only problem with that is that I don't have the HCG yet. Hopefully I'll have it in another week or 2, or it may never come who knows. Assuming that HCG is out of the picture or only comes near the end of my cycle, would that still be the best choice?

 

[needtogetaas]

Well the only problem with that is that I don't have the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - yet. Hopefully I'll have it in another week or 2, or it may never come who knows. Assuming that HCG is out of the picture or only comes near the end of my cycle, would that still be the best choice?

Ether what I said or chose 2 is the best. Its always best to run hcg during the cycle if you can. But if you can't go with 2.