oh, she's spose to. she got herself fired from work. but the bish won't chip in for a damn thing. i can't get her to reimburse me for her half of a $4 prescription for my daughter. she says she doesn't have to cuz i didn't "submit the paperwork" to her within 30 days. whatever. karma's gonna catch up to her. the real karma.the lady doesnt have to pay anything?
other than her monthly amount, she has to reimburse me for any out-of-pocket expenses.... 50% of prescriptions, doctor visit co-pays, etc.... nada. total wipeout. she just ignores the stuff i send her....she shouldnt have to pitch in for anything other then pay the required payment monthly/weekly however you have it set up...if she is missing payments then she is having debt adding up... if she got fired then she will have unemplyment and you are still entitled to that..call your case worker.. when she does start workign again you will get her tax return this year if she has anythign coming back..
it's in the divorce decree. my lawyer has sent her a bill, too. she just ignores that as well....this is somethign that was agreed to thru court? if so keep your reciepts and give them to your case worker..if its somethign between just you and her then you are screwed
dude. unfortunately, i gotta budget like the child support doesn't exist. like you said, when it does come, gotta pretend it's a bonus or something, kinda makes me feel like a turd for celebrating, but whatever. i celebrate by taking my daughter out to eat. can't really do that otherwise....Good luck dude. My brothers ex wife still owes him over 10k. Had you or I owed that much we'd be in prison. She moves on a regular so when social services catches her and revokes her license she just moves again. He has been getting her tax returns for a while but its pennies on the dollar. And every time he walks into the social services office he see's the same dead beat dad poster.
Now here is the clincher. She was MIA for 5 yrs! Shows up one day with a lawyer and decides she wants full custody. Needless to say after 40k in lawyers fee's and 2-3 yrs later. She gets X amount of weekends and 2-3 weeks in the summer. All that after NOT adhering to the judges orders that she had to maintain a set visitation schedule. Oh did i mention he had to live with my parents for 3 years in order to pay for the lawyer? And lets not forget the fact that she has remarried once and has had several "live in" boyfriends that the kids are subject to when they visit. The horror stories are fucking endless! Now when she decides to pay one month or he gets her tax return its like a small bonus for him.
Point is, she is not going to pay you. Live your life so it does not involve her as much as humanly possible. Be thankful you have your kids more than her. Karma is a bitch. It WILL come and bite her in the ass, Ive seen it happen for years and years with the same dumb c*nt. And when it does everyone knows why..........
if the situation was reversed, if SHE was supposed to get child support from YOU...don't you think she would be tawkin' to her lawyer? well,. what are YOU waiting on????oh, she's spose to. she got herself fired from work. but the bish won't chip in for a damn thing. i can't get her to reimburse me for her half of a $4 prescription for my daughter. she says she doesn't have to cuz i didn't "submit the paperwork" to her within 30 days. whatever. karma's gonna catch up to her. the real karma.
if the situation was reversed, if SHE was supposed to get child support from YOU...don't you think she would be tawkin' to her lawyer? well,. what are YOU waiting on????![]()
tks for the correction.Actually he doesn't need a lawyer to file an enforcement motion. It would cost him about 30$ filing fee and fill out the paperwork, attach a copy of the divorce decree and the receipts that you sent her asking for the court to force her to pay, or impress sanctions on her for non-payment.
No reason to waste money on a lawyer for something so simple.
Hell, my ex has been hammering my ass pro-se for over 3 years now, didn't matter how good my attorneys were or how ILLEGAL what he was doing was.
Something like this is a slam dunk simple. He just needs to go to the court house and ask the staff there to walk him through the process to file and ENFORCEMENT MOTION. It's really simple. Chances are you won't get the money right away but eventually yes, they will impose sanctions, ie - garnish income tax or some such. If you do this yourself then you won't have to worry about giving the money that was supposed to go to your kid to the lawyer for legal fees.
tks for the correction.
even easier!!
if her prima donna ass was about to get locked up i bet she'd come up with the cash very quickly?![]()
tks for the correction.
even easier!!
if her prima donna ass was about to get locked up i bet she'd come up with the cash very quickly?![]()
dude. unfortunately, i gotta budget like the child support doesn't exist. like you said, when it does come, gotta pretend it's a bonus or something, kinda makes me feel like a turd for celebrating, but whatever. i celebrate by taking my daughter out to eat. can't really do that otherwise....
What?!? Screw that! DO NOT feel like a turd! Raising a child on your own is damn expensive!
sometimes i just can't help it. i always figured she would appreciate me telling the truth to her rather than sugar-coating things. she wonders why her mother isn't around. i can't explain things any better than the truth, can i? it is what is it, right?And as a PS - regardless of how messed up the mother is for whatever it is that she is doing either directly or indirectly to the child never EVER badmouth her to the child or allow any friend/family to badmouth the mother to the child. This will cause TREMENDOUS STRESS AND EMOTIONAL HARM to a young child. When that child is old enough they will realize the truth in their own good time.
This goes for both mothers and fathers.
Believe you me, I know how strong the urge is to let the child know what a douche the other parent is. It will serve NO USEFULL PURPOSE, but will only do harm to THE CHILD.
What?!? Screw that! DO NOT feel like a turd! Raising a child on your own is damn expensive!
she sure as heck won't get locked up or forced to pay up if you do NOTHING about it!Thats the problem dude. She will not get locked up. Not in the lib society we live in! Just like i said, bro's ex owes thousands! and she has never not once ever set foot inside a jail!
What?!? Screw that! DO NOT feel like a turd! Raising a child on your own is damn expensive!
she sure as heck won't get locked up or forced to pay up if you do NOTHING about it!
grow a pair, for chrissake, and get your ass down to the court house!
what? bitching on a forum won't get me anywhere? why has god forsaken meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?????????
i have to file a motion to enforce, for the arrearage. yes, i said arrearage. and i also have to file a motion to modify, for the custody arrangement. according to it now, the ex gets visitation about half the time.... something she hasn't used in a while. my daughter hasn't spent an overnight there since august. why should i take less in CS because of a vapor visitation schedule?i am also totally baffled by this revelation
i have to file a motion to enforce, for the arrearage. yes, i said arrearage. and i also have to file a motion to modify, for the custody arrangement. according to it now, the ex gets visitation about half the time.... something she hasn't used in a while. my daughter hasn't spent an overnight there since august. why should i take less in CS because of a vapor visitation schedule?
you need to contact the state and let them do the collecting for you.. that way now or later she will pay, right from the paycheck..
or no drivers license..
And as a PS - regardless of how messed up the mother is for whatever it is that she is doing either directly or indirectly to the child never EVER badmouth her to the child or allow any friend/family to badmouth the mother to the child. This will cause TREMENDOUS STRESS AND EMOTIONAL HARM to a young child. When that child is old enough they will realize the truth in their own good time.
This goes for both mothers and fathers.
Believe you me, I know how strong the urge is to let the child know what a douche the other parent is. It will serve NO USEFULL PURPOSE, but will only do harm to THE CHILD.
Just pay the money and enjoy the fact that you can parent your daughter unencumbered by an unfit parent. It will hurt her that her mother isn't there, true. But there are far worse situations that could hurt her more.
dood, your "logic" baffles me sometimes...So what you're saying - Women shouldn't have to pay child support. Men should be happy "they have a kid". If you're a man with child support, pay the fuck up.
Double Standards, I love it!!
r

it's hard not to bad mouth her. i just don't have anything good that i can say, really. is there a difference? maybe, i should just keep my mouth shut....He doesn't badmouth the mother, although, I understand this is common.
He ACTUALLY has tried VERY HARD to repair the mother/daughter relationship. Daughter has never really been able to get along with the mother. JFN2 paid for his daughter and the mother to go to a psychologist... over and over again with hopes of the relationship being prepared. Mom didn't even show for the appointments. The biggest fights I have ever known of JFN2 having with his wife(post-divorce)were all because he would try to get mom to spend time with the daughter.
Mom won't spend time with the daughter because daughter REFUSES to be around mom's new creepy boyfriend(creepy enough to have criminal records to back up how creepy he is..)
So, mom hasn't seen the daughter since Christmas. And even then only for a couple of hours. They were at my house. Mom spent the time talking about the new sound system she bought for creepy boyfriend.
Daughter looked like she wanted to vomit. Prolly because she didn't really get much from mom as far as gifts or TIME.
You are correct about how things usually go about parents "badmouthing" the other parent post-divorce, however, JFN is an exception to this rule.
When will you fuckers learn not to get BM started on kids?As elite andy said, thank your lucky stars you have your kid.
Mine were taken from me for NO REASON with NO HOPE OF EVER EVER EVER getting them back again.
Now I will have to pay an ungodly amount of money for kids that I can't see or rescue from their abusive situation.
Just pay the money and enjoy the fact that you can parent your daughter unencumbered by an unfit parent. It will hurt her that her mother isn't there, true. But there are far worse situations that could hurt her more.
THERE IS NO JUSTICE.
it's hard not to bad mouth her. i just don't have anything good that i can say, really. is there a difference? maybe, i should just keep my mouth shut....
naw, she has enough to deal with, ya know.... i still think that there is SOME good in her. i can't help but think that. the person i fell in love with has GOT to be in there somewhere, right? all i want is for her to wake up and come home....You do a much better job than I have,lately.
I should have been on ur side from the start .... but it was hard to not be on her side. She was my best friend for years and wasn't like this. I thought she was just going through a bad faze. I always thought she would return to reality.
Well, it's been over 2 years.
I only hear from her if she wants money or to stash shit at my house. Now, since I am having all of these strange charges pop up on my debit card and getting bills from doctors I have never heard of... I think it's time to change my locks since she still has a key.
I have not heard from her since the day after the reporters started calling about her(was that a month ago?).
This isn't a faze. It's a life change.
I am dealing with a ton of hurt and anger.
I'm sure you are,2...... but you are just keeping your mouth shut. I am venting to everyone willing to listen .... except for your daughter. She knows whats going on. She doesn't need to hear about it from us.
naw, she has enough to deal with, ya know.... i still think that there is SOME good in her. i can't help but think that. the person i fell in love with has GOT to be in there somewhere, right? all i want is for her to wake up and come home....
man, just buy me some walmart panties. thong panties. the bigget you can find. it will remind me of her....I know. And this is why u rawk. She is taking a big, steamy shit on EVERYONE(her daughter, friends, family) and she has been just getting worse. We have all put up with a TON. Besides you, I stuck around to deal with more of her shit than even her own parents would tolerate. I still have love/and a little hope for her because this is sooooo OPPOSITE of the girl we all knew before but maybe my own jadedness is starting to cloud my feelings about her. I would LOVE for her to get over this, whatever "this" is ....... but my hope is almost gone.
Ur being a real trooper.
man, just buy me some walmart panties. thong panties. the bigget you can find. it will remind me of her....
So what you're saying - Women shouldn't have to pay child support. Men should be happy "they have a kid". If you're a man with child support, pay the fuck up.
Double Standards, I love it!!
r
He doesn't badmouth the mother, although, I understand this is common.
He ACTUALLY has tried VERY HARD to repair the mother/daughter relationship. Daughter has never really been able to get along with the mother. JFN2 paid for his daughter and the mother to go to a psychologist... over and over again with hopes of the relationship being prepared. Mom didn't even show for the appointments. The biggest fights I have ever known of JFN2 having with his wife(post-divorce)were all because he would try to get mom to spend time with the daughter.
Mom won't spend time with the daughter because daughter REFUSES to be around mom's new creepy boyfriend(creepy enough to have criminal records to back up how creepy he is..)
So, mom hasn't seen the daughter since Christmas. And even then only for a couple of hours. They were at my house. Mom spent the time talking about the new sound system she bought for creepy boyfriend.
Daughter looked like she wanted to vomit. Prolly because she didn't really get much from mom as far as gifts or TIME.
You are correct about how things usually go about parents "badmouthing" the other parent post-divorce, however, JFN is an exception to this rule.
it's hard not to bad mouth her. i just don't have anything good that i can say, really. is there a difference? maybe, i should just keep my mouth shut....
I don't know him from Adam. I was just giving some advice prophylactically. As a divorced parent, one that was married to a douche of epic proportions (I'd only met one woman personally who had a worse exhusband than me. He killed their children.) I was only trying to help him NOT make the same mistakes that I and every other parent who'd been through a painfull divorce has most likely made at one time or another.
Nothing more and nothing less.
I feel for him and his child. It's truly sad when ANYONE (male or female) can't get their shit together and be a fucking parent, just get over the fact that the marriage didn't work out and move on with their adult life while co-parenting children from separate households. Doesn't matter if the mother or the father is the one that gets fucked - the child ALWAYS gets fucked.
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You can't BEGIN to realize how well I understand.
I have FOUR DAUGHTERS that have been literally emotionally, physically and spiritually destroyed.... all the money and fight in the world and I couldn't do a FUCKING THING to save them. Now it is too late and all I can do is pretend I am not dead on the inside.
He doesn't have to put it all out here. I understand 100% from THIS end of it...
All I can say is that she has a good parent - mother or father isn't what is most important for the child right now. Right now what matters is that she has AT LEAST ONE GOOD PARENT THAT CARES.
My children have NO ONE...
I have faith that if he has come this far (paying for the shrink TRYING to fix the relationship) then he is most likely an EXCELLENT PARENT and will figure out what to do next one way or another. We aren't 100% responsible for how our children turn out. At the end of the day we can only do our best and the rest will be up to them.
Agreed, again.
I honestly can't say I understand(from experience) what you and JFN are dealing with. I can imagine, but I understand that only "living it" can give the truest understanding.
I do, however, feel bad for your kids and JFN's daughter.
I CAN say that I have a deep understanding of the importance of good parents.
I had a really bad mother until I was 8. Then, I had no parents or family at all, until I was almost 12.
I really admire that you fight so hard for your kids. After I lost my family and had NOone, I wished someone would have been fighting to save me or help me. I didn't have that. I just had social services shipping me all around the state... never knowing where I was going. A car would just show up and my few belongings would be stuffed into a trashbag. Nobody tried to fight for me.
I got lucky. I was rescued by some great people. But those few years seemed to have lasted forever.
I admire your fight. And I'm sure knowing that you DO fight makes your kids feel better.
I got your PM and now my heart is doubly breaking for JFN and his daughter... I wish I could say that I believe "there is a greater plan" but that seems hollow when one is in the middle of hell.
I fought as hard as I could, Myway, for as long as I could but I can't fight anymore. It is just throwing money and effort out the window and makes my kids' situation worse.
So now all I want is an accurate accounting of income (up till now the court had imputed an income to me that I never made and my ex was allowed to lie about his artificially reducing it) and I will just send the check. No more texts, emails, IM's or packages of cookies. I was told that I was a tired old whore who is cheating on her perverted old husband, that my cookies make them sick, just STFU and die but don't forget to send that check before I do...
So I will quietly fade away, but keep sending that check.
Nothing more I can do.
I'm so sorry that you had to grow up like that. I fought for 9 nine years and have bankrupted two families (me AND my sister). My sister's family has been greatly affected as has mine.
ENOUGH.
My children are no longer babies that need a mother's guidance so I need to just accept that that time in my life is over - their childhood is forever gone and there is nothing I can do to get it back. Now all I can do is move ahead for myself and my husband and make the most of my life. If they ever come to me my life will be an real example that they had been lied to all these years. If they do not then my life will still be a great example of what one can do to live through hell and be well regardless.
I wish you and JFN nothing but happiness and good things. We all get knocked down, that's not what makes us special. That's "just life." What makes a person special is when they keep getting back up.
I'm not quitting by any stretch. I am just choosing to change my focus.
thank god i have no kids.
the thought of my kids hanging out with douchebag boyfriends on my exs visits would drive me to murder.
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