GHB...watch out

[Dr_Down]

The DEA lists it as Schedule I
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/listby_sched/sched1.htm

It's my understanding that it's actually a modified schedule I. That it's only seen as schedule I for prosecution purposes, in all other eyes it's seen as schedule III.
In other words if you're possessing it illegally it's viewed as a schedule I drug. For purposes of research and legally dispensing it's seen as schedule III.

I may not have this exactly correct, but it's something like this.

This is the correct understanding of it. The federal government doesnt determine “legitimate medical uses” of anything. Such determinations are made by medical professionals that establish a “standard of care,” which is supervised solely by the state (and not the feds). GHB is recognized as a legitimate therapy by many medical professionals and medical societies.
Even I get my GHB from the US, through my local drugstore, because its not produced (or legal, but can be imported in rare medical cases) in Norway.
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Its also true the process of making GHB is extremely easy and you have nomerous ways to get it made. But the fact that "everyone" can make it, doesnt make everyone a source. You actually have to distribute it to be a source...
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As mentioned above, pretty much everyone I was adressing with my initial post, might not be around anymore, and therefor I repeat my question about GHB and bodybuilding, since I still want an answer to this...


Out of curiosity and lack of knowledge in the field of bodybuilding, I ask if the quoted statement below is the only reason GHB is "popular in these circles"?

Quadsweep:
"It is a zero calorie buzz that is why it is popular in these circles."

This sounds as a reason good enough, and I see a few people conclude that GHB have no value for bodybuilders, but still ONDCP (Office of National Drug Control Policy) state that "GHB is abused for its ability to produce euphoric and hallucinogenic states and for its alleged function as a growth hormone that releases agents to stimulate muscle growth."
And DEA states that "Body builders sometimes use GHB for its alleged anabolic effects."

Again, my knowledge in the field of bodybuilding is lacking, so my question above stands.

 

[deltreefitness]

Out of curiosity and lack of knowledge in the field of bodybuilding, I ask if the quoted statement below is the only reason GHB is "popular in these circles"?


This sounds as a reason good enough, and I see a few people conclude that GHB have no value for bodybuilders, but still ONDCP (Office of National Drug Control Policy) state that "GHB is abused for its ability to produce euphoric and hallucinogenic states and for its alleged function as a growth hormone that releases agents to stimulate muscle growth."
And DEA states that "Body builders sometimes use GHB for its alleged anabolic effects."

Again, my knowledge in the field of bodybuilding is lacking, so my question above stands.

Many thought ghb's GH release would be a wonderful aid in body-building. The fact is that just because a substance can temporarily raise GH levels does not equate to muscle gains. I've been using it for years, and although it's had many other positive health benefits, it's anabolic effects is not enought to justify as the primary use. It is though an awesome sleed-aid. So it has potential for helping in the recovery process. It is safer than any OTC or prescription sleeping med to date. Prescribed world-wide for narcolepsy, cataplexy, and isomnia.

http://www.ceri.com/ghbpage.shtml
http://www.warddeanmd.com
http://www.webducks.com/ghb.htm

 

[carlsky]

the only reson why girls get knocked out from it is because their body can't take all that growth hormone in their system. It raises your growth hormones by 13 times! So it is used as a date rape drug but it was intended for bodybuilding.

 

[deltreefitness]

the only reson why girls get knocked out from it is because their body can't take all that growth hormone in their system. It raises your growth hormones by 13 times! So it is used as a date rape drug but it was intended for bodybuilding.

I highly doubt Dr. Laborit sythesize GHB with bodybuilding in mind. You're speaking out of your ass. In unexperienced users it can temporarily raise GH release by about five-fold when injected IV. At the same time GH is released so is prolactin. Please do some researsh before spouting out unbased hearsay. Alcohol is the #1 date rape drug. Let's not go there.

 

[Dr_Down]

the only reson why girls get knocked out from it is because their body can't take all that growth hormone in their system. It raises your growth hormones by 13 times! So it is used as a date rape drug but it was intended for bodybuilding.

This is one of the most ignorant posts so far. What on earth made you come up with this conclusion? GHB is the #1 date rape drug (newly surpassed Rohypnol) for a few reasons. First of all its color and odour free, and the salty taste gets covered by pretty much any liquid the victim might be drinking. GHB gets a tremendous effectboost when combined with alcohol, wich in almost all cases of GHB related rapes is what GHB are added into. This gives the victim a big overdose, and if you knew anything about GHB that usely leads to a coma and sometimes death (as mentioned, when combined with alcohol). Not very hard to commit a rape when the victim is in coma. Because of this coma, or state of unconsciousness, the victim can have promblems remembering much of the crime, and usely wait more then 48 hours to report it. This leads to no GHB founds in the body. Few drugs with a similiar effects have so short period of time in the body. And last but not least, its cheap.
All this makes it ideal for such criminal acts.

The only difference the effect has on a female body, if any, is that the effect will be a little higher because females usely have lesser bodymass and weight.
Same as when it comes to alcohol and so on.

 

[carlsky]

guys, if this were the case then why are a bunch of people that I know take it as a drug? It increases your dopamine levels also so it gives you a "high". Do some more research cause iv'e done mine. I know amateur bodybuilders that take it all the time and they never pass out! But give too much to a girl and watch what happens.

 

[ocisbomb]

that, 'raises gh by 13 times' thing was hilarious...

 

[deltreefitness]

guys, if this were the case then why are a bunch of people that I know take it as a drug? It increases your dopamine levels also so it gives you a "high". Do some more research cause iv'e done mine. I know amateur bodybuilders that take it all the time and they never pass out! But give too much to a girl and watch what happens.

It does usually enduce euporia depending on the dose. Interestingly though it actually inhibits dopamine release.

 

[carlsky]

Dude, I read a news article in the chicago tribune a few months ago that said it increases your growth hormone by 13%. The interview on it was done by a famous doctor and he said everything there was about it. I'll see if I can dig the article up.

 

[Gobus]

13% /= 13 times greater