GHB...watch out

[proud13]

fuckenshredded,
I am not advocating posting of sources......but it is legal to talk and write about GHBwhich you started to say in your 2nd paragraph but then contradicted youself by saying "But any hint of sourcing or manufacture is enough to allow the feds to come right to your door with a warrant." Why the manufacture of it?There are many websites that are dedicated to not only providing information and message boards but links for providers as well. As for , "this board is brought under review and scrutiny by the feds (it is currently)" I guess we all better find new message boards. Check out what SNOOP said and this board should have been shut down already as you claim. Even worst, George Spellwin ought to get himself a good lawyer and start hiding since his board offers a manual on "How to make GHB"!!!!

You still have not provided any links which I would enjoy reading. I don't care how long you have been posting on a board or who you correspond with (which is bs). What do you ask them anyway, "Hey Mr. Legislative member what are the laws on GHB?" "Well Tommy you can have your house searched and seized just by talking about it or even posting anything about it on those bodybuilding boards!" I have had friends caught with GHB and the charges were not harsh at all, so I know for a fact (at least in my state) it is not a big thing. If GHB was such a big time thing throughout the US then I'm sure you would hear about it and/or busts in the news all the time...."and a GHB bust is a big deal to those guys, believe me." I could understand if you are a domestic source trying to openly sell GHB to people on boards, then yes I'm sure the FEDS (you claim to be so close with) or who ever would want to shut you down and convict you but no one is trying to sell hear it is simply a discussion board, which is very legal, but you still have failed to understand that. That is great you have legal knowledge but as for the legal action that the gov't/Big Brother may undertake, or better yet have undertook, you are the one who fails to comprehend it.

For all the others (like B182 and Hifidelity) who think this drug is for ravers maybe one day you will be lucky enough to be a competing bodybuilder, if you are then ask around when your backstage about GHB and see what is said. I don't like weed, X, alcohol, painkillers or any other intoxicating nonsense that destroys the body but if you knew what GHB did or who it was developed by and for what reason, then you might understand.

As for the ignorance you believe I suffer from. I would not go there~I am at the 34th top ranked public/private university in this nation going for my MBA. I was on a full athletic scholarship but am now paying my own way b/c I believe my school work should come first. I'm also an amateur bodybuilder hoping to take home the Mr. Gainesville,FL this year. I have also been in the line of gear for about 6 years now and I have knowledge of what I deal with, take, buy and the ramifications that I could suffer from should I be caught.

 

[drrman]

I hate to tell ya FUKKEN SHREDDED, but believe me bro, it takes a LOT more than just talking about making G or talking about sources to get your house searched bro. Truth is, its pretty difficult to get a search warrant and NO and i say NO Judge would issue one based on a few dumb posts on a discussion board. Hell in that case, all the people over at dancesafe.org and other drug bulletin boards would be searched and arrested. True GHB may not have a BBing usage, but i dont' like alcohol, i use it when i want to party and if people don't like the fact i like to party then they can kiss my ass. I lift to look good and feel good, i will never be a pro, so why live my life like a pro and not enjoy partying or whatever. And for you other people who think the PRO's DON"T party, well bullshit, i've seen them do lines and eat as many pills as anyone else.

 

[Doktor Bollix]

If is true that GHB laws are new and different in their intrusion on our freedoms, what people know about warrants, search and seizure or whatever may not be relevant. I don't know if it is true/untrue and have couldn't give a flyin' fuck either way, but it seems like a good idea to err on the side of caution if it affects you. I don't think you can get into trouble for anything you post on elite either but the thing about criminal endeavour is that the less evidence the better.

Proud13 you need to get laid or something, that attitude is grating.

 

[RussianBro]

If you will take the time and do a search, proud13, you might avoid exposing your ignorance. Perhaps you will take the time to read my posts on this board for the last year and a half before you jump to such a bizarre conclusion about me. It seems that not only did you misread my post, (I never said that talking about GHB was illegal, but just the opposite), but you also have illustrated your own shortsightedness. The fact is that I have posted references to laws in this area several times. Furthermore, I correspond with legislative members about this very subject, and I am extremely familiar with what is and is not legal.

The point of the post, child, is that many here do not know the difference, and do not know that when it comes to GHB there is very little required to conduct a legal search. Might I point out to you that the very act of declaring a substance Schedule 1 via an emergency declaration and simultaneously overriding the review of Congress in such a declaration is, in and of itself, a constitutional violation.

Furthermore, there is clear violation of the 14th ammendment since their cannot be logical uniform enforcement of a law that renders a FOOD Schedule I, which some of the GHB laws indeed do.

I wonder if you are trying to prove that you are, in fact 13, or if you simply have an IQ of 13.

Either way, you succeeded.

You must be very proud of your wit and knowledge. Keep teaching us.

that was good word, my friend!
Karma is yours...

 

[RussianBro]

As for the ignorance you believe I suffer from. I would not go there~I am at the 34th top ranked public/private university in this nation going for my MBA.

who gives a damn about our background...
Most of the users on this board are educated professionals if you've been long enough around here to know it...
So what if I currently study in one of the top 30 private/public schools. Who gives a damn...

The fact is simple as that - GHB source disscussions cannot take place on this board... And Fukkenshredded simply reminded everyone or those who are not aware of that...

The world would be too simple and boring without people like Simple13..

 

[bigdelt69]

there are no open source post allowed in this board. there for i for think the feds probelly are not as concerned with this board as they are others. there is nothing wrong to my knoldege with a web site that offers info on how to make ghb. and i believe that no judge would issue a search warrent based upon someones post about partying with ghb. and thats the only reference to ghb that i have seen on here.

when i posted that i had 300 winny tabs and some test....why didnt the big bad feds come knocking at my door.....why you ask, bigger fish to fry......not enough evidence....?

 

[Snoop]

exactly!

 

[bigdelt69]

so everyone stop tripping the fuck out and lets stick to bodybuilding instead of bickering about stupid shit.

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Snoop...your first response is correct. It does take a significant amount to access emails, but remember that there is a difference between talking about HOW to make it and talking about HAVING MADE or MAKING it yourself. I have seen losts of posts recently that reveal adequate information to this end.

Unfortunately, I myself am guilty of this as well. My posts here and elsewhere have at times been very foolish.

Remember what you are admitting to you post something along the lines of "...just got my floor cleaner today and converted it..."

In conjunction with inquiries about GHB this is sufficient to prompt further investigation. Also, access to this and other boards is already granted. Feds read these boards regularly. They are not all out to bust everything, and I would imagine that some of them get their knowledge and references here for their own use.

Just like cops. I am sure many of you know that there are several police officers that are respected members here, and their intent is not to bust this board at all. Most cops, feds, and DEA are reasonable people doing a job.

However, many of them have been convinced that GHB is, in fact, a HUGE risk to the general public and must be stopped. They really believe that they are serving the public good by enforcing such ludicrous laws. It would do to remind some of you here that convictions for GHB have occurrred that are absolutely frightening. Possession of less than a hundred grams has resulted in prison sentences for first time offenders. Think about that. I don't hink that you can find the same thing with regards to steroid possession in similar amounts. So, we can, as you have pointed out, discuss the methods of manufacture and the effects of this FOOD, which it is, but I am simply pointing out that we all must be very clear that none of us actually USE this compound because it is, in fact, illegal.

I, myself, in fact, have stopped using this compound as of the time it became illegal, and I simply am continuing to educate myself and others about its properties in anticipation of the status of this compound being ammended so as to reinstate its availability.

Which is why I study it, see. For when it becomes legal again.

13...boy oh boy.

34th.

I was first in my field, but never mind that.

Interestingly you are still saying I am full of shit here. It is you that I am trying to help, in fact.

And the others who have asked about why they haven't been busted for a little bit of winny and test. BECAUSE IT IS UNBUSTABLE. That's why. The gram equivalency makes it a non-issue, and the authorities know this.

You have friends busted with GHB who weren't punished. Hmmm. If this is true, they are either very lucky or they lived in CA when it was a Scedule II drug.

Again, I am not talking about the dangers of discussiong methodologies here. On all of those websites like Erowid, blulighht and such (I am aware of most) there is still caution used with regards to wording. Information selling and dispersing is LEGAL EVERYWHERE, but admitting to a felony, even casually, is unwise.

I will avoid further posting on this thread, seeing as those of you who can benefit will, and those who want to flame me will.

Snoops points are well taken here, and I do not think that they are consistent with proud13's points.

I considered posting a few case studies here, and I still might, but in the end it will not influence anyone who is purely ignorant and stubborn.

Also, I will resist the urge to expose a few syntactic errors and such...but remember that the point of my post is not to insult anyone, but to inform.

As for intellect references, proud13...well, uh...I am glad you are smart. Hope you never have to prove yourself in a court of law, bro.



Incidentally, I personally feel that this compound relates to bodybuilding as much as any ancillary would. bodybuilding is NOT simply a discussion of steroids. When you consider that lots of time is spent in discussion of herbs, nootropics, and the like, we can certainly agree that GHB, a simple carbohydrate, should not be taboo.

Just watch your wording is all.

Peace.

 

[manny78]

GHB is among the top priorites here in Canada along with coke and X. Not only raves have been targeted recently by cops but also some underground lab and gyms (stock-pilling GHB). But anyway some people are just stuck with their own point of view so screw that.......